| 24 Mar 2025 |
 emily | I guess our installation is pretty minimal in general though | 17:25:54 |
 K900 | I think it makes sense to remove PIM from the ISO tbh | 17:26:25 |
| emily | yeah, doing it | 17:28:23 |
| emily | I have the graphical ISO down to 1.07× the size of the 24.11 Plasma 6 one so far, hoping I can get it below | 17:28:45 |
| emily | which will still mean like 1.3× the download for GNOME users but oh well | 17:29:06 |
| emily | apparently OpenCV can be smaller than the one we're using with Spectacle. something about distros including contrib in the OpenCV package making it bigger? | 17:29:36 |
| emily | at least some KDE developer claimed it should only be like 20 MiB to justify using it. | 17:30:05 |
| K900 | I believe we're currently building the smallest OpenCV Spectacle will accept | 17:30:07 |
| emily | fun. | 17:31:27 |
| emily | cool, the ISO has GDB because of DrKonqi | 17:33:52 |
| K900 | Intended | 17:34:21 |
| emily | yeah | 17:35:04 |
| emily | is shipping an X server in 2025 intended? | 17:35:44 |
| K900 | Yes | 17:35:51 |
| K900 | Well | 17:35:55 |
| K900 | Xwayland definitely | 17:35:57 |
| K900 | X11 session uhhhhhhhhhhhhhmaybe | 17:36:03 |
| K900 | I think it should stay for now | 17:36:11 |
| emily | oh god it has two WebKitGtks | 17:36:18 |
| K900 | Because there are known-fucked-on-wayland setups | 17:36:21 |
| emily | FWIW GNOME are dropping it upstream soon | 17:36:52 |
| emily | no idea about KDE | 17:36:54 |
| K900 | Not until Plasma 7 | 17:37:37 |
| K900 | There's a prominent Plasma contributor who's Mad Online about Wayland every other day | 17:37:54 |
| emily | awesome, we have both evolution-data-server and evolution-data-server-gtk4 on the ISO, which is part of what's pulling this in | 17:38:17 |
| emily | though that's off-topic :P | 17:38:24 |
| emily | K900: do you know why the Plasma 6 module configures SDDM with plasma5support? | 17:46:39 |
| K900 | It's a porting aid | 17:47:09 |
| K900 | plasma5support is a Qt6 library that implements some plasma5 APIs | 17:47:21 |
| emily | but like. | 17:47:22 |
