| 24 May 2026 |
 mj | It’s all the old audio plugins in LV2/etc formats | 08:07:39 |
 K900 | Those don't work with xwayland? | 08:08:03 |
| mj | Im thinking to review them all in bulk and determine if they can be patched by generalisations | 08:08:08 |
| mj | Not according to ardour team | 08:08:15 |
| K900 | If you run the entire software under xwayland, it should not even know it's talking to a not-real X server | 08:08:53 |
| K900 | I'm guessing there can be problems with trying to run a plugin that expects X in a Wayland context | 08:09:09 |
| K900 | I'm guessing there can be problems with trying to run a plugin that expects X in a Wayland host | 08:09:12 |
| K900 | But as long as the host is also xwayland, I don't see a problem | 08:09:23 |
| mj | I haven’t looked into the specifics yet, but it’s got to do with most audio plugins for linux being ancient and using a hacky workaround | 08:09:50 |
| mj | I tried last year, and i had problems with some supposedly staple-ish plugins but i dont have any documentation of that. Was too busy. | 08:10:21 |
| K900 | Well again if you run Ardour itself in xwayland, there should not be an observable difference | 08:10:29 |
| K900 | As far as the plugins go | 08:10:32 |
| mj | They get glitchy / unusable is the best i can point at | 08:10:53 |
| mj | I’ll likely be fine by 6.7 but just putting it out there. Idk what pressures KDE is facing | 08:11:24 |
| K900 | The only "pressure" is that no one wants to touch X11 | 08:13:05 |
| K900 | Either upstream or downstream | 08:13:09 |
| mj | I’m on it behind a gateway 😬 | 08:13:36 |
 aloisw | Did this change since the original plan to only drop it in 7? | 08:18:58 |
| K900 | People have brought it up | 08:21:48 |
| K900 | I don't know if it'll actually happen | 08:21:53 |
| mj | Yes there was already an article on some linux news site that KDE will drop it by 6.8, this means ends at 6.7 | 08:23:02 |
| mj | Announcement has gone out but if pressure mounts here’s another stick | 08:23:30 |
| aloisw | I mean the motivation. It seems to me that it hasn't, and I would have preferred if they had announced the much earlier end right away. | 08:31:38 |
| aloisw | (or even "we don't know how long we can still support it" tbh) | 08:33:15 |
 Hadi 🤒 | In reply to @aloisw:kde.org
Did this change since the original plan to only drop it in 7? There never was a plan.
Its was entirely vibe based on how far https://invent.kde.org/plasma/kwin/-/work_items/202 was. | 08:43:19 |
| Hadi 🤒 | Now with it almost done, the annoucement has been made. | 08:43:59 |
| Hadi 🤒 | Plasma 7 was just an estimate that later turned out to be inaccurate. | 08:44:29 |
| aloisw | In reply to @silverhadch07:matrix.org
There never was a plan.
Its was entirely vibe based on how far https://invent.kde.org/plasma/kwin/-/work_items/202 was. … and the statement "kwin_x11 is expected to be maintained until Plasma 7" in the announcement about splitting it off (https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/plasma-devel/2025-March/123654.html). | 09:22:17 |
| Hadi 🤒 | expected doesnt mean will. | 09:32:57 |
| Hadi 🤒 | This is the only thing binding with the annoucment.
https://invent.kde.org/plasma/kwin/-/work_items/202 | 09:34:52 |
