| 24 May 2026 |
K900 ⚡️ | Valve at least is paying a bunch of folks | 10:33:12 |
K900 ⚡️ | There's also the EUgov funding now | 10:33:20 |
K900 ⚡️ | Which you should probably ask Raito about | 10:33:35 |
K900 ⚡️ | If you want details | 10:33:48 |
Hadi 🤒 | In reply to @aloisw:kde.org Ah, so finally you actually provided a reason that did change after all. I assume there was some external funding for a huge effort to accelerate the timeline by roughly 5x? Yes we were faster than we anticipated. So the need of the X11 side fell out. | 10:41:41 |
aloisw | Makes sense then. The EU funding happened after the 6.8 announcement so I suppose the acceleration was funded by the Valve money, I'm kinda surprised they don't care as much about old NVIDIA as they care about old AMD. | 10:57:03 |
aloisw | In any case congrats for the funding, it really gives me hope for improvement on the Linux desktop front. And after all AlmaLinux 9 exists for those who can't switch to Wayland (and thanks for pointing them to it). | 10:58:20 |
K900 ⚡️ | They do care | 10:58:26 |
K900 ⚡️ | I believe at least some of the NVK-on-older-hardware work has been funded by Valve via Collabora | 10:58:37 |
aloisw | Unfortunately for pre-Turing the nouveau kernel driver is not really a realistic option due to the power management situation: depending on the machine configuration the card will be either in the lowest state (slow) or in a higher one (hot) permamently (there are apparently some workarounds for Kepler and early Maxwell but not sure how well they work). So you need various legacy versions of the proprietary driver which really only support X11 (I think some of them did support Wayland without GBM but no compositor I'm aware of still does). | 11:12:55 |
K900 ⚡️ | Wasn't someone working on power management for those too? | 11:24:56 |
K900 ⚡️ | On the kernel side | 11:25:08 |
aloisw | Not that I'm aware of. The only things I could find is for Pascal Tegras (https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/nouveau/2025-August/048609.html) and for newer Maxwell (https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/nouveau/2017-September/028848.html) but without fan support. | 11:36:36 |
aloisw | (and of course everything is still manual) | 11:37:24 |
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mj | Redacted or Malformed Event | 19:56:23 |
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K900 ⚡️ | Dayum | 15:16:32 |
K900 ⚡️ | The 6.7 wallpaper is sick | 15:16:37 |
K900 ⚡️ | Also you can now just enable Union in the style settings | 15:21:04 |
| 31 May 2026 |
| Aliaksandr set a profile picture. | 00:31:03 |
aktaboot | I'm hitting an issue that seems to be kwin related but i'm not 100% positive.
Sometimes my external monitor just doesnt seem to receive any signal and i get kwin_wayland[2815]: Failed to open drm device in the kwin logs
- the monitor goes to sleep after initially getting woken
- I see the monitor in Display Configuration and can enable/disable it etc.
- If I switch to a different tty, it does wake up and mirror the other monitor, as expected
- kernel logs dont show any warnings relating to drm or amdgpu
Any ideas how i can debug this further? | 06:19:32 |
K900 ⚡️ | Is it a separate GPU or just wired to the integrated? | 06:20:14 |
aktaboot | the issue either happens initially or doesn't (only reboot fixes it it seems) | 06:20:17 |
aktaboot | integrated | 06:20:27 |
K900 ⚡️ | Does kscreen-doctor list it when it's dead? | 06:20:28 |
aktaboot | yeah i can enable it with kscreen doctor and everything | 06:20:50 |