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22 Sep 2024
@aleksana:mozilla.orgFind me at aleksana:qaq.liI was thinking of only activating ofBorg during owner's sleep time and maybe dual boot two macOS to avoid pollution09:52:43
@7c6f434c:nitro.chat7c6f434cTwo macOS with different disk encryption passphrases sound like enough isolation (if it is easy on macOS side)09:53:31
@aleksana:mozilla.orgFind me at aleksana:qaq.liAlthough they still have to face the risk of data loss to some degree09:53:40
@7c6f434c:nitro.chat7c6f434cThe polution will be kind of only in the store … unless the sandbox leaks something09:53:51
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## Mac Minis

owner: the NixOS Foundation
access: Dan, Eelco, Rob, Graham
role: build machines

Running at the Utrechs Infor office on a shelf somewhere

## Mac Stadium

owner: MacStadium and rented to daniel peebles or the foundation?
role: build machines

Eelco had a root password

wonder if this is up to date still

09:54:36
@aleksana:mozilla.orgFind me at aleksana:qaq.liOh and another problem is the owner may be subject to action by the operator if the operator considers the traffic to be abnormal or illegal content has been accessed09:54:55
@7c6f434c:nitro.chat7c6f434cWell, you need to publically burn zero days for data loss, but yeah09:55:07
@aleksana:mozilla.orgFind me at aleksana:qaq.liThere are also minor issues such as hard drive depreciation09:55:43
@7c6f434c:nitro.chat7c6f434cI guess you could put the store on an old 1TB external HDD you no longer trust with durable storage of data?09:56:21
@7c6f434c:nitro.chat7c6f434c(presumably the people donating compute are the people who can afford some wear and tear and electricity, and who have a hardware rotation process with different reliability expectation)09:57:29
@aleksana:mozilla.orgFind me at aleksana:qaq.liIs it possible to ask e.g. Amazon for a free rental?09:58:50
@7c6f434c:nitro.chat7c6f434cI am pretty sure that with the current queue length (and the retries in the current code) a frequently crashing/rebooting intermittently available ofBorg builder for Darwin will be better than not having it as long as it is not actively maliciously lying about the logs/outcomes09:58:57
@aleksana:mozilla.orgFind me at aleksana:qaq.li* Is it possible to ask e.g. Amazon Cloud for a free rental?09:59:00
@7c6f434c:nitro.chat7c6f434cI am pretty sure that currently all the Amazon goodwill is used for discounts on the binary cache (both Linux and Darwin)09:59:54

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