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22 Sep 2024
@cafkafk:gitter.imcafkafkLike, does ofborg just use a list of remote builders, or do the hosts actually need to be dedicated09:45:21
@cafkafk:gitter.imcafkafk * Like, does ofborg just use a list of e.g. remote builders, or do the hosts actually need to be dedicated solely to ofborg09:45:37
@7c6f434c:nitro.chat7c6f434cIt still doesn't use cachix uploads, right?09:47:27
@7c6f434c:nitro.chat7c6f434cIf so, it's basically add a bunch of identifiers into the config, build a package, run the binary in it with that config09:48:18
@7c6f434c:nitro.chat7c6f434cDuring a build it might consume all the CPU you let it (not sure how you limit that on macOS)09:49:00
@7c6f434c:nitro.chat7c6f434cBut like any heavy Nix build09:49:11
@7c6f434c:nitro.chat7c6f434cThe system is pretty OK with intermittent availability09:49:54
@cafkafk:gitter.imcafkafkAlso there is the issue of limited sandboxing on darwin I guess09:50:20
@7c6f434c:nitro.chat7c6f434cBack in the day, the move to internally controlled builders was partially motivated by the complexity of tracking ofBorg versions across the fleet 09:50:57
@7c6f434c:nitro.chat7c6f434cIf the things are more stable today, this issue might no longer be relevant09:51:14
@7c6f434c:nitro.chat7c6f434cDarwin sandboxing is an issue, probably09:51:26
@cafkafk:gitter.imcafkafkIs there a place to see what hosts are in the fleet (are all the darwin builders still just in grahamc's basement >_>)09:51:58
@aleksana:mozilla.orgFind me at aleksana:qaq.liI was thinking of only activating ofBorg during owner's sleep time and maybe dual boot two macOS to avoid pollution09:52:43
@7c6f434c:nitro.chat7c6f434cTwo macOS with different disk encryption passphrases sound like enough isolation (if it is easy on macOS side)09:53:31
@aleksana:mozilla.orgFind me at aleksana:qaq.liAlthough they still have to face the risk of data loss to some degree09:53:40
@7c6f434c:nitro.chat7c6f434cThe polution will be kind of only in the store … unless the sandbox leaks something09:53:51
@cafkafk:gitter.imcafkafk
## Mac Minis

owner: the NixOS Foundation
access: Dan, Eelco, Rob, Graham
role: build machines

Running at the Utrechs Infor office on a shelf somewhere

## Mac Stadium

owner: MacStadium and rented to daniel peebles or the foundation?
role: build machines

Eelco had a root password

wonder if this is up to date still

09:54:36
@aleksana:mozilla.orgFind me at aleksana:qaq.liOh and another problem is the owner may be subject to action by the operator if the operator considers the traffic to be abnormal or illegal content has been accessed09:54:55

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