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7 Jun 2023
@k900:0upti.meK900https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/236329 any idea why eval didn't fail here?08:39:05
@lily:lily.flowersLily Foster
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https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/236329 any idea why eval didn't fail here?
If it's an alias issue, see my message from about a month ago: https://matrix.to/#/!sBfrWMVsLoSyFTCkNv:nixos.org/$HPOU0iB59i57szcLa8l4X8aAPfQPnUP3_uH81nAP-iw?via=lily.flowers&via=matrix.org&via=nixos.dev
11:53:00
@k900:0upti.meK900It is11:53:10
@lily:lily.flowersLily FosterI did do that testing to see how much it impacted eval time and it impacted it more than I would have liked, so I was going to look for another solution (and then stopped having spare time...)11:53:57
@lily:lily.flowersLily Foster Yeah I just took a look at that diff and it is the same issue (fishing an alias out of pkgs doesn't get caught by that test since it really doesn't eval much past callPackage args) 11:56:31
@lily:lily.flowersLily Foster I'll try to make a PR in a few hours to ofborg to just do --drv-path for that test to get feedback/discussion on it (assuming I have a spare moment to do so at $dayjob this morning) 11:58:07
@rick:matrix.ciphernetics.nl@rick:matrix.ciphernetics.nlWe should also just use a lot less aliases and stop introducing them haphazardly. Just make them throw immediately maybe, with the new attr name (if any)16:44:17
@hexa:lossy.networkhexaPeople got mad at me the last time I converted aliased to throws16:47:59
@hexa:lossy.networkhexaPrimarily due to out of tree usage16:48:12
@maralorn:maralorn.demaralorn*cough* warnings RFC *cough*21:46:42
8 Jun 2023
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@lily:lily.flowersLily FosterI opened https://github.com/NixOS/ofborg/pull/643 for the alias checking problem13:49:23
9 Jun 2023
@k900:0upti.meK900Another alias issue: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/23682811:43:39
@k900:0upti.meK900And another one: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/23683312:14:26
@k900:0upti.meK900Today is definitely one of the days of all time12:14:32
12 Jun 2023
@me:indeednotjames.comemily
In reply to @me:indeednotjames.com
knowing that Scaleway has https://www.scaleway.com/en/hello-m1/ and an open source funding program (https://www.scaleway.com/en/about-us/open-source-program/):

It this something the nix org (or ofborg) could apply for?

okay so...
problem: we need more aarch64-darwin builders for ofborg

scaleway provides apple m1 hardware and has a open source funding program.
unfortunately, I've heard scaleway does not longer respond to the OSFP.

couldn't the nix macos fund (maintained by domen) which has a balance of almost $10k as of right now, just pay for some? 👀
https://opencollective.com/nix-macos

or is the issue more about the lack of folks who could maintain and update $amount of apple m1 builders?

19:02:07
13 Jun 2023
@vcunat:matrix.orgVladimír ČunátTechnically it's surely possible to take some from hydra.nixos.org.11:58:58
@vcunat:matrix.orgVladimír Čunát * Technically it's surely possible to take some from hydra.nixos.org and use it for ofBorg instead.11:59:12
@vcunat:matrix.orgVladimír ČunátBut usually we can keep them busy in there, too.12:00:44
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@domenkozar:matrix.org@domenkozar:matrix.org
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okay so...
problem: we need more aarch64-darwin builders for ofborg

scaleway provides apple m1 hardware and has a open source funding program.
unfortunately, I've heard scaleway does not longer respond to the OSFP.

couldn't the nix macos fund (maintained by domen) which has a balance of almost $10k as of right now, just pay for some? 👀
https://opencollective.com/nix-macos

or is the issue more about the lack of folks who could maintain and update $amount of apple m1 builders?

I'm all for it, ideally hetzner since it's the cheapest
17:35:43
@artturin:matrix.orgArtturin
In reply to @domenkozar:matrix.org
I'm all for it, ideally hetzner since it's the cheapest
Hetzner doesn't have apple hw anymore it seems
17:39:40
@domenkozar:matrix.org@domenkozar:matrix.orgOh wow, that's new to me. Hopefully they will offer m2 soon.17:44:26
@domenkozar:matrix.org@domenkozar:matrix.orgSeems like scaleway allows 1 mac per customer17:48:24
@vcunat:matrix.orgVladimír ČunátWell, NixPkgs has lots of users ;-)19:06:42
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14 Jun 2023
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@me:indeednotjames.comemily
In reply to @domenkozar:matrix.org
Seems like scaleway allows 1 mac per customer

we could try contacting their support asking for an quota increase I guess? maybe?

excerpt from https://www.scaleway.com/en/docs/console/my-account/reference-content/account-quotas/

To increase a specific quota, you must contact our support team.

10:15:04
15 Jun 2023
@me:indeednotjames.comemily how many aarch64-darwin builders do we need though?
I wouldn't be surprised if buying them directly from apple and throwing them in some colocation would be cheaper 👀
15:31:41

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