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29 Sep 2021
@dminuoso:matrix.orgdminuosoAs part of some "initiative"12:09:22
@eyjhb:eyjhb.dkeyJhbFound this - https://www.mellanox.com/news/press_release/mellanox-introduces-generation-open-ethernet-first-open-switch-initiative thanks :)12:10:33
@dminuoso:matrix.orgdminuosoSadly the situation with Broadcom really hurt that initiative12:12:14
@hexa:lossy.networkhexayeah, broadcom is a situation, but so is NVIDIA12:12:38
@dminuoso:matrix.orgdminuosoWell, not pointing fingers.12:12:49
@dminuoso:matrix.orgdminuosoThe NVIDIA acquisitions triggered all of this, yeah.12:13:00
@hexa:lossy.networkhexasure, but nothing NVIDIA does is open either12:13:08
@eyjhb:eyjhb.dkeyJhbWhat did they do? Said no to it all?12:13:10
@hexa:lossy.networkhexamellanox and cumulus were aquisitions that were open before12:13:22
@dminuoso:matrix.orgdminuosoeyjhb: Broadcom has had their license for the SDKs revoked.12:13:30
@lvkm:matrix.orglvkmintel bying barefoot wasn't any better either12:13:31
@dminuoso:matrix.orgdminuosoWhich essentially mean, broadcom is no longer supported by cumulus12:13:38
@linus.heckemann:matrix.mayflower.deLinux Hackermanoh man, I wish I had a usecase that brings in enough money to get switches like that :D12:14:13
@eyjhb:eyjhb.dkeyJhbSounds like a dick move. But wouldn't expect any less from NVIDIA (sounds like they are the ones to point at)12:14:17
@hexa:lossy.networkhexaNVIDIA also planned to buy ARM12:14:30
@dminuoso:matrix.orgdminuosoeyjhb: It was broadcoms decision.12:14:32
@dminuoso:matrix.orgdminuosoNot NVIDIAs.12:14:33
@eyjhb:eyjhb.dkeyJhb Linux Hackerman: just start "Hackerman ISP" 12:14:35
@hexa:lossy.networkhexathat would really have completed the shit show12:14:37
@dminuoso:matrix.orgdminuosoeyjhb: Roughly the problem was, before mellanox and cumulus were separate companies.12:14:48
@hexa:lossy.networkhexacumulus did a reckless thing by building upon two products that weren't theirs 🙂12:15:18
@dminuoso:matrix.orgdminuosoeyjhb: but with nvidia acquiring and merging both, I guess they became a dangerous competitor for broadcom.12:15:23
@lvkm:matrix.orglvkm
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eyjhb: Broadcom has had their license for the SDKs revoked.
well the "sdk" was kind of a joke anyway, the sdk you get via NDA can a lot more (and having an NDA to get the microcode sdk is even better)
12:15:24
@linus.heckemann:matrix.mayflower.deLinux Hackerman eyJhb: I'd have to grow a bit before needing that sort of thing 12:15:29
@dminuoso:matrix.orgdminuosolvkm: Ah really?12:15:42
@lvkm:matrix.orglvkmthe "open" sdk was extremely limited - in terms what the chip could be capable of12:16:16
@eyjhb:eyjhb.dkeyJhbOh, okay :)12:16:48
@eyjhb:eyjhb.dkeyJhbGuessing there are no opensource chips to use for these kind of things.12:17:07
@dminuoso:matrix.orgdminuosoeyjhb: Not in that performance region.12:17:22
@eyjhb:eyjhb.dkeyJhbAny worth supporting?12:17:46

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