| 29 Sep 2021 |
dminuoso | As part of some "initiative" | 12:09:22 |
eyJhb | Found this - https://www.mellanox.com/news/press_release/mellanox-introduces-generation-open-ethernet-first-open-switch-initiative thanks :) | 12:10:33 |
dminuoso | Sadly the situation with Broadcom really hurt that initiative | 12:12:14 |
hexa | yeah, broadcom is a situation, but so is NVIDIA | 12:12:38 |
dminuoso | Well, not pointing fingers. | 12:12:49 |
dminuoso | The NVIDIA acquisitions triggered all of this, yeah. | 12:13:00 |
hexa | sure, but nothing NVIDIA does is open either | 12:13:08 |
eyJhb | What did they do? Said no to it all? | 12:13:10 |
hexa | mellanox and cumulus were aquisitions that were open before | 12:13:22 |
dminuoso | eyjhb: Broadcom has had their license for the SDKs revoked. | 12:13:30 |
lvkm | intel bying barefoot wasn't any better either | 12:13:31 |
dminuoso | Which essentially mean, broadcom is no longer supported by cumulus | 12:13:38 |
Linux Hackerman | oh man, I wish I had a usecase that brings in enough money to get switches like that :D | 12:14:13 |
eyJhb | Sounds like a dick move. But wouldn't expect any less from NVIDIA (sounds like they are the ones to point at) | 12:14:17 |
hexa | NVIDIA also planned to buy ARM | 12:14:30 |
dminuoso | eyjhb: It was broadcoms decision. | 12:14:32 |
dminuoso | Not NVIDIAs. | 12:14:33 |
eyJhb | Linux Hackerman: just start "Hackerman ISP" | 12:14:35 |
hexa | that would really have completed the shit show | 12:14:37 |
dminuoso | eyjhb: Roughly the problem was, before mellanox and cumulus were separate companies. | 12:14:48 |
hexa | cumulus did a reckless thing by building upon two products that weren't theirs 🙂 | 12:15:18 |
dminuoso | eyjhb: but with nvidia acquiring and merging both, I guess they became a dangerous competitor for broadcom. | 12:15:23 |
lvkm | In reply to @dminuoso:matrix.org eyjhb: Broadcom has had their license for the SDKs revoked. well the "sdk" was kind of a joke anyway, the sdk you get via NDA can a lot more (and having an NDA to get the microcode sdk is even better) | 12:15:24 |
Linux Hackerman | eyJhb: I'd have to grow a bit before needing that sort of thing | 12:15:29 |
dminuoso | lvkm: Ah really? | 12:15:42 |
lvkm | the "open" sdk was extremely limited - in terms what the chip could be capable of | 12:16:16 |
eyJhb | Oh, okay :) | 12:16:48 |
eyJhb | Guessing there are no opensource chips to use for these kind of things. | 12:17:07 |
dminuoso | eyjhb: Not in that performance region. | 12:17:22 |
eyJhb | Any worth supporting? | 12:17:46 |