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11 Mar 2024
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefon priors i'd lean towards "we just don't have enough compute" rather than "we're leaving it idle", but talk is cheap, i'd love to see some data17:37:11
@edef1c:matrix.orgedeflike, broadly it's not very complicated, we (hopefully) have a Prometheus somewhere and a Grafana dash somewhere that can tell us this17:37:39
@shalokshalom:dendrite.matrix.orgShalok ShalomI know there is a Grafana17:38:07
@shalokshalom:dendrite.matrix.orgShalok Shalomdidnt look into it too deep17:38:12
@shalokshalom:dendrite.matrix.orgShalok Shalomhttps://status.nixos.org/17:38:23
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefthe build scheduler definitely has issues, and we could do a lot better17:38:41
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefi certainly have some prototype bits and pieces lying around for various parts of the stack, but none of that is productionised or tested at scale17:39:14
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefi would be quite surprised if we are below 50% utilisation and have the capacity to run a second, identical workload17:39:41
@shalokshalom:dendrite.matrix.orgShalok Shalomyeah, I see that17:39:59
@shalokshalom:dendrite.matrix.orgShalok Shalomdidnt intend to say, we should double the workload, just consider the testing in general17:40:26
@shalokshalom:dendrite.matrix.orgShalok ShalomI feel like sticking to something, just because its sticky, is also not worth necessarily 17:40:48
@shalokshalom:dendrite.matrix.orgShalok Shalom * I feel like sticking to something, just because its sticky, is also not worth it. 17:41:02
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefhmm, these dashes don't give me a lot of information directly, i'd have to actually work on building a decent model17:41:03
@shalokshalom:dendrite.matrix.orgShalok Shalom
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hmm, these dashes don't give me a lot of information directly, i'd have to actually work on building a decent model
oh, that would be lovely
17:41:28
@shalokshalom:dendrite.matrix.orgShalok Shalomyou mean a model that is representative of the actual workload, yes?17:41:45
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefall in all, Hydra is pretty Lindy, we've been running it for far over a decade now17:41:58
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefno credible replacement has that kind of track record, and we have a lot to lose if we screw up17:42:13
@shalokshalom:dendrite.matrix.orgShalok Shalomyeah, I think its uniqueness is the reason to this scenario17:42:45
@edef1c:matrix.orgedeflike, as i said, we are a long way from rock bottom, and i'd prefer not to go there17:42:59
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefHydra does a fair few things that are plainly stupid, but hobbled along at lower scale and weren't worth the investment then17:43:44
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefnow we are a fair bit further along the line, and it's time to pay the piper17:44:01
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