| 27 Jun 2024 |
 hexa | wondering if someone can chime in on that issue | 15:40:24 |
| hexa |
I've been deep in the docs this past week thinking about how best to implement it
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| 11 Jul 2024 |
 Ronny | Are there any docs for setting up and gcing a small personal cache, I have a Homeserver on nix that's available via ssh and id like to use it as cache server for personal needs | 16:25:40 |
| 12 Jul 2024 |
 samrose | Ronny: one route is to just use it as a remote build machine https://nix.dev/manual/nix/2.18/advanced-topics/distributed-builds. Nix would automatically cache the builds in the nix store of the machine. you can nix build with --keep-outputs to build up the roots you want to keep. | 00:09:00 |
| 13 Jul 2024 |
| Ronny | In reply to @samrose:matrix.org
Ronny: one route is to just use it as a remote build machine https://nix.dev/manual/nix/2.18/advanced-topics/distributed-builds. Nix would automatically cache the builds in the nix store of the machine. you can nix build with --keep-outputs to build up the roots you want to keep. im building on one of my higher powered systems and have the cache on my rpi sytem (that shouldn't build) - i want to work out something where a github action pushes to the cache eventually | 10:19:31 |
| 14 Jul 2024 |
| samrose | Ronny: that is explained in https://nix.dev/manual/nix/2.22/command-ref/new-cli/nix3-copy you just have to figure out how to securely network to your machine. | 10:21:20 |
| Ronny | In reply to @samrose:matrix.org
Ronny: that is explained in https://nix.dev/manual/nix/2.22/command-ref/new-cli/nix3-copy you just have to figure out how to securely network to your machine. this lacks all details on gc-proofing and/or lifecycle management - copied closures dont exactly help with controlling how one reclaims space | 10:31:16 |
| hexa | have you looked at attic so far? | 11:41:25 |
| hexa | it is a binary cache implementation that uses S3-compatible backends | 11:42:13 |
| hexa | https://github.com/zhaofengli/attic | 11:42:15 |
| hexa | gc is documented here https://docs.attic.rs/tutorial.html#garbage-collection | 11:42:34 |
| hexa | i'm using it with a local garage setup, and the same would likely work with minio, or some hosted setup | 11:44:02 |
| hexa | if you're interested I can share the config that I run on my local rock5b | 11:50:09 |
| Ronny | i have taken a look at attic, however as my server has also the largest deploy set, i was hoping to enable using its store directly as a cache instead of creating a extra deployed service (when ssh and filesystem are kinda there) | 13:14:43 |
| hexa | you can use harmonia to serve your /nix/store | 13:18:33 |
| hexa | * you can use harmonia to serve your /nix/store | 13:18:44 |
| hexa | it has no gc semantics beyond what the nix store already offers | 13:19:12 |
| Ronny | hmm, man, so unless i use a different cache with a different store, i get no gc for the system that wont nke cache by accident | 13:21:57 |
| hexa | one tricky thing about nix and caches that collect garbage is a very high postive ttl for narinfo files in nix's defaults https://nix.dev/manual/nix/2.18/command-ref/conf-file#conf-narinfo-cache-positive-ttl | 13:22:04 |
| hexa | * one tricky thing about nix and caches that collect garbage is a very high postive ttl (30 days) for narinfo files in nix's defaults https://nix.dev/manual/nix/2.18/command-ref/conf-file#conf-narinfo-cache-positive-ttl | 13:22:52 |
| hexa | * one tricky thing about nix and caches that collect garbage is a very high postive ttl (30 days) for narinfo files in its defaults https://nix.dev/manual/nix/2.18/command-ref/conf-file#conf-narinfo-cache-positive-ttl | 13:23:02 |
| hexa | well, you could manage gcroots for the closures you want to keep | 13:23:48 |
| hexa | this is basically the same mechanic that prevents gc from removing things that shouldn't be removed | 13:24:35 |
| hexa | * this is basically the same mechanic that prevents gc from removing things that shouldn't be removed, like your system closure | 13:24:42 |
| hexa | * this is basically the same mechanic that prevents gc from removing things that shouldn't be removed, like your recent system closures | 13:24:54 |
| Ronny | so based on what i understood so far - there is no nix-native binary cache mechanism - gc will jsut kill unless one does messy gc root hacks | 13:26:12 |
