| 6 Mar 2024 |
 @domenkozar:matrix.org | I have talked to companies and they are willing to sponsor, it just takes effort to make this thing happen | 12:53:00 |
 flokli | It's not my call on whether we can delay the GC further to evaluate another solution, that's a foundation topic. | 12:53:11 |
| flokli | So please reach out to them, and get them to make that call. | 12:53:20 |
| @domenkozar:matrix.org | alright I'll talk to them next week | 12:53:31 |
| @domenkozar:matrix.org | thanks guys :) | 12:53:35 |
 Julien | Anyway, in the short term any solution towards paying less and/or saving historical data is good | 12:53:59 |
| Julien | Doesn't prevent us from designing a better long term solution | 12:54:14 |
| Julien | And supposedly the EU Data act let us export all the data from a provider at any given point | 12:54:31 |
| Julien | * And supposedly the EU Data act let us export all the data from a provider at any given point for free | 12:54:48 |
| flokli | Getting a sudeen influx of money into the foundation so we don't need to worry about the current costs too much would certainly help. But as I said, we didn't have that much of corporate players chipping in. | 12:54:48 |
| flokli | * Getting a sudden influx of money into the foundation so we don't need to worry about the current costs too much would certainly help. But as I said, we didn't have that much of corporate players chipping in. | 12:54:58 |
| Julien | Well I imagine that a bit of networking always help | 12:55:24 |
| Julien | These actors like to be asked sometimes | 12:55:39 |
| flokli | Yes, definitely. We should make sure it's not just one actor, and there's some commitment/willto do this at least for a year, so we have some wiggle room | 12:56:11 |
| flokli | We didn't have that. | 12:56:18 |
| @domenkozar:matrix.org | Julien: I've been in many non-profit organizations and one of the hardest things to design for is when people burn out, which happens a lott | 13:04:25 |
| @domenkozar:matrix.org | * Julien: I've been in many non-profit organizations and one of the hardest things to design for is when people burn out, which happens a lot | 13:04:27 |
| @domenkozar:matrix.org | it doesn't even have to be burning out, they just get a baby :) | 13:05:55 |
| flokli | The amount of people actually writing code to understand the large dataset that cache.nixos.org is is quite small, and we're all pretty burnt out. | 13:05:59 |
| @domenkozar:matrix.org | yes exactly my point :) | 13:06:11 |
| flokli | I'll just take a step back from this for now. | 13:06:18 |
| flokli | Check back with the foundation and your potential sponsors, make sure we have commitments in, and backing from the foundation | 13:06:34 |
| @domenkozar:matrix.org | I'll do my best | 13:06:45 |
| Julien | In reply to @domenkozar:matrix.org
Julien: I've been in many non-profit organizations and one of the hardest things to design for is when people burn out, which happens a lot You mean that as a point not to go for a cache infrastrucutre maintained by community members, right ? | 13:06:46 |
| flokli | And if/once we do have wiggling room to design a nicer system, we could. | 13:06:49 |
| @domenkozar:matrix.org | In reply to @julienmalka:matrix.org
You mean that as a point not to go for a cache infrastrucutre maintained by community members, right ? yes | 13:07:08 |
| @domenkozar:matrix.org | when you work in a team of volunteers you have to assume anyone can leave at any time | 13:07:46 |
| @domenkozar:matrix.org | and when you start paying engineers, 7k/mo is pretty cheap | 13:08:26 |
 patka | I might be out of line here and interfer with this I shouldn't mingle myself with. But people also burn out really fast when a plan is made and agreed upon and then someone comes along and throws a wrench into the plans, with only wishes and good intentions | 13:08:32 |
| @domenkozar:matrix.org | yeah I understand this | 13:09:30 |
