| 5 Mar 2024 |
 flokli | So we might not have to pay egress fees once we move data out for real | 16:01:00 |
 raitobezarius | Not, might | 16:01:13 |
| raitobezarius | * Not might | 16:01:15 |
| raitobezarius | We don't have to pay egress fees | 16:01:19 |
| flokli | We still need to contact support etc | 16:02:13 |
| flokli | But yes | 16:02:15 |
| flokli | It's better than doing the snowball dance. But it doesn't make sense to do that now, we don't have a sink for the data yet. | 16:02:46 |
| raitobezarius | ah right I forgot that it cost 20K to contact the support /s | 16:03:01 |
| flokli | Make sure you check the price list first! | 16:07:04 |
| 6 Mar 2024 |
 @domenkozar:matrix.org | so basically we need like 7k/mo if we switch to Cloudflare R2 | 03:43:24 |
 @delroth:delroth.net | 7k/mo and being fine with the ethics of giving money to cloudflare | 05:03:16 |
| @domenkozar:matrix.org | I don't think we have a lot of choice here | 12:36:05 |
| flokli | Don't think it's wise to move it to another cloud provider, we currently do have some AWS sponsoring, and cold freezing things for some months will give us some more time. | 12:37:22 |
| @domenkozar:matrix.org | I don't think cold freezing is wise if we can save the full history | 12:38:07 |
| flokli | I guess long-term the idea is to self-host this, be able to easily dedup etc, without keeping every position on the cloud provider pricing list in mind | 12:38:13 |
| @domenkozar:matrix.org | ehh | 12:38:31 |
| @domenkozar:matrix.org | you can migrate from cloud providers, but then you need to pay people inside the foundation to manage all this | 12:39:24 |
| @domenkozar:matrix.org | I don't think this is going to end well | 12:39:33 |
 Julien | 7k/mo is still a load difficult to bear for the fondation, no ? If I understand well currently the excess cost with AWS is 6k/mo ? | 12:39:53 |
| flokli | Well, this channel is about binary cache self-hosting ;-) | 12:40:06 |
| @domenkozar:matrix.org | 7k/mo I can guarantee I can get sponsorship for | 12:40:10 |
| @domenkozar:matrix.org | flokli: ok, so where can we discuss the plan then | 12:40:24 |
| @domenkozar:matrix.org | I'm fine in any channel :) | 12:40:29 |
| flokli | The foundation currently pays 6k a month out of their own pocket and doesn't want to do this long-term, and the AWS sponsorship coving some more costs is time-limited too, because we need to get our costs down. | 12:41:07 |
| flokli | The number of data in the bucket is also growing, it certainly will if we don't want to GC and don't have the wiggle room to dedup | 12:41:46 |
| @domenkozar:matrix.org | yes, we migrate to R2 and we get 6k/mo of sponsors for the foundation and we have the full history | 12:41:49 |
| flokli | We need more than that. | 12:41:58 |
| @domenkozar:matrix.org | cache is a common good, we shouldn't just remove stuff if we have a chance of keeping it | 12:42:01 |
| @domenkozar:matrix.org | it's 500GB of storage no? | 12:42:13 |
| Julien | In reply to @domenkozar:matrix.org
it's 500GB of storage no? Tb | 12:42:28 |
