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@zimbatm:numtide.comJonas Chevalierhttps://discourse.nixos.org/t/upcoming-garbage-collection-for-cache-nixos-org/3907813:50:00
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@zimbatm:numtide.comJonas ChevalierWhy Tarnsap doesn't use Glacier: https://www.daemonology.net/blog/2012-09-04-why-tarsnap-doesnt-use-glacier.html15:59:47
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusyeah edef is in contact with Colin16:00:41
@zimbatm:numtide.comJonas Chevalierthe TL;DR is that if you do chunk deduplication, then recent objects might have chunks stored in Glacier. And Glacier retrieval is super expensive.16:09:58
@hexa:lossy.networkhexaare the goals listed in the attic readme all realized?22:33:33
@hexa:lossy.networkhexaor are they still goals?22:33:42
@zhaofeng:zhaofeng.liZhaofeng LiYes, they are realized. One thing is that scaling can be bottlenecked by the underlying database22:35:53
13 Feb 2024
@artemist:mildlyfunctional.gayartemistOn the topic of attic, are there places people suggest hosting the backing objects? I've been using b2 but find it very unreliable and slow00:11:32
@zhaofeng:zhaofeng.liZhaofeng Li I'm using backblaze r2 which is more expensive storage-wise but charges nothing for outbound 00:12:46
@zhaofeng:zhaofeng.liZhaofeng Li * I'm using cloudflare r2 which is more expensive storage-wise but charges nothing for outbound 00:13:11
@zhaofeng:zhaofeng.liZhaofeng Li (s/backblaze/cloudflare duh) 00:13:26
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I'm using cloudflare r2 which is more expensive storage-wise but charges nothing for outbound
Thanks, I'll look at that soon. For now I'm just moving stuff back to the local disk on my VPS
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the TL;DR is that if you do chunk deduplication, then recent objects might have chunks stored in Glacier. And Glacier retrieval is super expensive.
yes, the answer is to just dupe the chunks in that case
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@edef1c:matrix.orgedefthe goal isn't "store every chunk exactly once", that's not an inherent requirement15:09:57
@flokli:matrix.orgflokliWell, and it only matters if you need to navigate the AWS pricing landscape15:10:40

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