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23 May 2024
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@jeff:ocjtech.usJeffWould it be a good/bad idea to run "attic watch-store" as a service? I want to push as much as possible into the cache and don't want to remember to run it manually...16:29:04
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@thefossguy:matrix.orgPratham Patel

Hello everyone, I finally have enough SSDs and machines to make sense of a network-wide Nix cache. My use case is as the following:

  1. Fetching binaries from cache.nixos.org and serving on local network.
  2. Any packages that not on cache.nixos.org (i.e. my personal derivations) will be built by the NAS itself by making use of my NixOS config repo and evaluating all [possible] expressions.
  3. Because of 1 and 2, the NAS won't accept any remote build requests nor accept any paths being pushed to it. It will already have everything by the time a local machine requests it.
  4. No authentication because of 3. "Public" serve.

I believe nix-serve should serve me better than attic but I'm not sure. This is mostly a question getting feedback on my approach.

Additionally, I am also thinking if maybe I should netboot all my headless SBCs from this NAS. How should/would that work?

05:54:38
@magic_rb:matrix.redalder.orgmagic_rb
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Hello everyone, I finally have enough SSDs and machines to make sense of a network-wide Nix cache. My use case is as the following:

  1. Fetching binaries from cache.nixos.org and serving on local network.
  2. Any packages that not on cache.nixos.org (i.e. my personal derivations) will be built by the NAS itself by making use of my NixOS config repo and evaluating all [possible] expressions.
  3. Because of 1 and 2, the NAS won't accept any remote build requests nor accept any paths being pushed to it. It will already have everything by the time a local machine requests it.
  4. No authentication because of 3. "Public" serve.

I believe nix-serve should serve me better than attic but I'm not sure. This is mostly a question getting feedback on my approach.

Additionally, I am also thinking if maybe I should netboot all my headless SBCs from this NAS. How should/would that work?

For the netboot, diregarding how you get the kernel/initrd to the SBC, the rootfs must exist somewhere, your options are tmpfs or nfs. What you could do is only keep /boot on each SBC and then have it mount /nix/store over nfs, and tmpfs on /
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@magic_rb:matrix.redalder.orgmagic_rb That would get you almost complete netboot but you dont have to bother with ipxe and such. The wear imposed on the sdcard by keeping /boot there is minimal and you already have to put the ipxe bootloader somewhere so might as well keep boot there 06:16:25
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27 Jun 2024
@hexa:lossy.networkhexatechknowlogick is looking into implementing a nix caching story for gitea15:39:57
@hexa:lossy.networkhexahttps://github.com/go-gitea/gitea/issues/2982415:40:03
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa

This feature request is to add support to Gitea for the HTTP store type.

15:40:19
@hexa:lossy.networkhexawondering if someone can chime in on that issue15:40:24
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa

I've been deep in the docs this past week thinking about how best to implement it

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@ronnypfannschmidt:matrix.orgRonnyAre there any docs for setting up and gcing a small personal cache, I have a Homeserver on nix that's available via ssh and id like to use it as cache server for personal needs16:25:40
12 Jul 2024
@samrose:matrix.orgsamrose Ronny: one route is to just use it as a remote build machine https://nix.dev/manual/nix/2.18/advanced-topics/distributed-builds. Nix would automatically cache the builds in the nix store of the machine. you can nix build with --keep-outputs to build up the roots you want to keep. 00:09:00

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