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NixOS Binary Cache Self-Hosting

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7 Mar 2024
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusto be discussed next meeting I guess00:40:00
@edef1c:matrix.orgedef i'm not even sure it fetches from Fastly 00:40:02
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusI need to hammer a bit more the software00:40:04
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusto make this more tangible00:40:07
@zhaofeng:zhaofeng.liZhaofeng Li<offtopic>Ah, Requester Pays... I always wondered why AWS/Google don't provide an easy way for non-technical people to access those buckets (i.e., enter credit card and bucket name, get web access)</offtopic>01:02:24
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefhmm, that seems buildable01:02:53
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefi think their ToS might have some stuff about reselling but i'm not sure how much that applies here01:03:32
@edef1c:matrix.orgedef * i think their ToS might have some stuff about reselling their services too directly but i'm not sure how much that applies here01:03:48
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefbut you can probably go forth and be the change in the world you want to see01:04:11
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusaka build a startup on the top of that01:04:25
@zhaofeng:zhaofeng.liZhaofeng LiIt would be nice if such an UI can avoid being in the middle of the payment process01:05:03
@zhaofeng:zhaofeng.liZhaofeng Lilike research teams can self-host the UI and not have to worry about fees, tax implications etc01:05:36
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefyou can totally sign up for an AWS account and use the bucket explorer UI, i think?01:05:39
@zhaofeng:zhaofeng.liZhaofeng Li * like research teams (dataset publishers) can self-host the UI and not have to worry about fees, tax implications etc01:05:55
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefand we have UI on eg https://releases.nixos.org01:06:01
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefbut for cache.nixos.org there's basically no easy UI on top of the raw objects that would be that useful01:06:22
@zhaofeng:zhaofeng.liZhaofeng Liyou totally can, but the setup process can be daunting/annoying for those who have never used AWS before and just want to download one dataset01:06:35
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefwe have the data to build a cache explorer now though :p01:06:35
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefthe counterparty risk is different doing credit card processing for long-lived accounts vs one-offs01:07:15
@edef1c:matrix.orgedeflike, it may well be a profitable business, it's just a different one01:07:26
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusis there anything like frontend clickhouse01:07:30
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariuswhere people can type clickhouse queries in their browser and get results01:07:39
@edef1c:matrix.orgedef
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is there anything like frontend clickhouse
it has a UI on the same port
01:07:40
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefit's just a textbox01:07:43
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusis it safe to expose?01:07:44
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariuspublicly I mean01:07:52
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefif you set the auth and confine CH properly, kinda?01:08:13
@edef1c:matrix.orgedefit's a pile of C++ and i have segfaulted it before01:08:21
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariuswell seccomp should reasonably prevent bad things to happen01:08:34
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusmmmmm01:08:37

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