| 6 Mar 2024 |
 Domen Kožar | companies rely on this infrastructure | 14:08:00 |
| Domen Kožar | if we can't guarantee that, everyone will move to what someone will build and provide business guarantees | 14:08:28 |
 adamcstephens 🐝 | do these companies contribute financially to ensure the infra is maintained? | 14:08:30 |
| Domen Kožar | they will and that's what I'm trying to say! | 14:08:38 |
 raitobezarius | That makes sense to me, Domen | 14:08:42 |
| Domen Kožar | ok, but if we can get those 10k/mo from companies, why wouldn't we continue to ensure it's professional? | 14:09:13 |
| Domen Kožar | that's what I'm saying, there are so many pet projects to pick on, why do this with the cache I don't get it | 14:09:32 |
| raitobezarius | What I see though is that no company except Mercury and few one off contributed to the cache working group on dedupe | 14:09:33 |
| Domen Kožar | because you need to talk to those companies | 14:09:51 |
| Domen Kožar | I'm willing to do that | 14:09:55 |
| raitobezarius | So I am cautious and I don't know if those 10k/mo will materialize or not | 14:10:00 |
| raitobezarius | In reply to @domenkozar:matrix.org
I'm willing to do that OK but that means you still don't know right? | 14:10:18 |
| Domen Kožar | I'm absolutely sure it can be done | 14:10:29 |
| raitobezarius | But assume you get 10k/mo from those companies | 14:10:35 |
| raitobezarius | Why not let the infra team cook? | 14:10:45 |
| raitobezarius | They know the best, no? | 14:10:52 |
| raitobezarius | Of course, this does not preclude a form of long term check up on the health of the things :) | 14:11:24 |
| Domen Kožar | given the discussion we're having I have doubts | 14:11:25 |
| Domen Kožar | to be honest | 14:11:37 |
| raitobezarius | At 10k/mo, the choice of CF matters little | 14:13:41 |
| raitobezarius | Either we have 10k/mo and we can buy 1PB every 2 months | 14:13:52 |
| raitobezarius | Either we don't and then this is a completely different discussion | 14:14:02 |
| raitobezarius | In the case we have, I don't see why we need to impose cloud providers on infra team | 14:14:18 |
 hexa | That backlog tho | 14:14:47 |
| raitobezarius | And if infra team wants cloud providers, this is the role of Foundation to find the money yes and find ways to make it work | 14:14:46 |
| hexa | When will I ever catch up | 14:14:59 |
| Domen Kožar | we are not imposing cloud providers, but requirements:
- host cache with 99.99999% reliability
- do that for as little money as possible
| 14:15:01 |
| hexa | Reliability requires overprovisioning | 14:15:23 |
| Domen Kožar | yeah :) | 14:15:37 |
| hexa | Its always a trade-off | 14:15:38 |
