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@domenkozar:matrix.org@domenkozar:matrix.org raitobezarius: the foundation can't afford to say when 1000 of businesses rely on cache, that Theo went on vacation can family had an emergency 14:06:23
@domenkozar:matrix.org@domenkozar:matrix.orgnot when there were other options14:06:29
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius I don't see thousands of businesses giving money for the cacheĀ  14:06:50
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius So I am not even sure this is a problem at this point 14:06:59
@domenkozar:matrix.org@domenkozar:matrix.orgwait, we're mixing things up now14:07:13
@domenkozar:matrix.org@domenkozar:matrix.orgif they use it, it doesn't mean they donate14:07:24
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius I think you have an implicit assumption that the community must ensure professionalism to companies 14:07:39
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius Or am I reading this wrong? 14:07:44
@domenkozar:matrix.org@domenkozar:matrix.orgcompanies rely on this infrastructure14:08:00
@domenkozar:matrix.org@domenkozar:matrix.orgif we can't guarantee that, everyone will move to what someone will build and provide business guarantees14:08:28
@adam:robins.wtf@adam:robins.wtfdo these companies contribute financially to ensure the infra is maintained?14:08:30
@domenkozar:matrix.org@domenkozar:matrix.orgthey will and that's what I'm trying to say!14:08:38
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusThat makes sense to me, Domen14:08:42
@domenkozar:matrix.org@domenkozar:matrix.orgok, but if we can get those 10k/mo from companies, why wouldn't we continue to ensure it's professional?14:09:13
@domenkozar:matrix.org@domenkozar:matrix.orgthat's what I'm saying, there are so many pet projects to pick on, why do this with the cache I don't get it14:09:32
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusWhat I see though is that no company except Mercury and few one off contributed to the cache working group on dedupe14:09:33
@domenkozar:matrix.org@domenkozar:matrix.orgbecause you need to talk to those companies14:09:51
@domenkozar:matrix.org@domenkozar:matrix.orgI'm willing to do that14:09:55
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusSo I am cautious and I don't know if those 10k/mo will materialize or not14:10:00
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius
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I'm willing to do that
OK but that means you still don't know right?
14:10:18
@domenkozar:matrix.org@domenkozar:matrix.orgI'm absolutely sure it can be done14:10:29
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusBut assume you get 10k/mo from those companies14:10:35
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusWhy not let the infra team cook?14:10:45
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusThey know the best, no?14:10:52
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusOf course, this does not preclude a form of long term check up on the health of the things :)14:11:24
@domenkozar:matrix.org@domenkozar:matrix.orggiven the discussion we're having I have doubts14:11:25
@domenkozar:matrix.org@domenkozar:matrix.orgto be honest14:11:37
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusAt 10k/mo, the choice of CF matters little14:13:41
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusEither we have 10k/mo and we can buy 1PB every 2 months14:13:52
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusEither we don't and then this is a completely different discussion14:14:02

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