| 23 Feb 2023 |
 @grahamc:nixos.org | so, we're hoping to "announce" / publish the installer on Monday | 16:28:31 |
| 24 Feb 2023 |
| @grahamc:nixos.org | in the draft blog post we're putting together, we've said that...
- we saw the installer discussion on Discourse and joined the installer working group since we'd already started on an installer
- have been discussing the work we've been doing and what the installer does/doesn't do
- that our primary goal is to implement a really good installer that configures a Nix we like
- it'd be great if the greater community wants to adopt it either as-is or as a fork, but it isn't up to us to make that decision
- regularly discussed what else it would need to do to be broadly adoptable by the Nix project, and have done some but not all of that work.
does that match y'all's memories?
| 15:01:43 |
 Matthew Kenigsberg | Matches mine! I think for reception you could tweak point 3 to add that we've discussed making it configurable, so that it could either install a Nix you like or a Nix the community likes
Thanks to you and Ana for all the work you've done on this :)
| 17:01:48 |
| @grahamc:nixos.org | great point, thank you! | 17:03:42 |
 abathur | In reply to @grahamc:nixos.org
in the draft blog post we're putting together, we've said that...
- we saw the installer discussion on Discourse and joined the installer working group since we'd already started on an installer
- have been discussing the work we've been doing and what the installer does/doesn't do
- that our primary goal is to implement a really good installer that configures a Nix we like
- it'd be great if the greater community wants to adopt it either as-is or as a fork, but it isn't up to us to make that decision
- regularly discussed what else it would need to do to be broadly adoptable by the Nix project, and have done some but not all of that work.
does that match y'all's memories?
Generally squares with what I recall as well | 17:59:38 |
| 27 Feb 2023 |
| @grahamc:nixos.org | just published: https://determinate.systems/posts/determinate-nix-installer | 16:10:31 |
| @grahamc:nixos.org | abathur: I really like what you wrote on HN, it says a lot of things I've felt too but didn't really know how to say | 18:39:00 |
| @grahamc:nixos.org | also hard for me to summarize | 18:39:33 |
| abathur | tbf I wrote a novella about it there :D | 18:39:57 |
| abathur | the only real TL;DR is that there's just a ton of friction everywhere in every direction--but I don't think that summary would convince anyone who hasn't tilted at the windmill yet | 18:40:58 |
| @grahamc:nixos.org | right | 18:56:58 |
| @grahamc:nixos.org | that tempdir environment variable issue broke me | 18:57:11 |
| abathur | it did | 19:10:05 |
| abathur | saw it in real time :) | 19:10:20 |
 Alyssa Ross | https://lobste.rs/s/tu7kjz/introducing_determinate_nix_installer#c_msuqpl | 23:30:09 |
| Alyssa Ross | lmk if you want to talk about this :) | 23:30:29 |
| 28 Feb 2023 |
|  snick joined the room. | 03:15:52 |
| 1 Mar 2023 |
| @grahamc:nixos.org | meeting link: https://meet.google.com/dwy-yvjd-zpc | 14:59:49 |
| @grahamc:nixos.org | not a lot of turnout, Matthew and I can hold the fort and maybe end early | 15:05:21 |
| @grahamc:nixos.org | https://md.darmstadt.ccc.de/9wXIJlS5RGyI0clX7qWSGA | 15:07:02 |
| Matthew Kenigsberg | abathur: discussing https://github.com/NixOS/nix/pull/7827, and it seems pretty unlikely it will ever get merged, but wondering if it would be better for you to respond and say something to that effect rather than just letting the PR hang? | 15:13:16 |
| abathur | grahamc (he/him): I guess this might be one of those command errors: https://github.com/DeterminateSystems/nix-installer/issues/285 | 15:47:26 |
| @grahamc:nixos.org | mmm yeah I bet so | 15:47:48 |
| abathur | maybe even 2 of them | 15:48:39 |
| abathur | one and then one more on revert it looks like | 15:48:54 |
| 2 Mar 2023 |
| abathur | heh https://hachyderm.io/@vascorsd@mastodon.social/109955987581151049 | 22:38:36 |
| 6 Mar 2023 |
| @grahamc:nixos.org | /usr/share/fish/vendor-conf.d the fish code is really annoying, there is no way to know where to put stufff really | 14:34:47 |
| abathur | sounds about right | 16:04:00 |
| 7 Mar 2023 |
| abathur | I'm a little exasperated that current install issues have been dangling as long as they are.
We may need a procedure for triangulating between 6nweek releases and letting versions with known install problems dangle for days on end spoiling first encounters. | 00:57:26 |
| abathur | * I'm a little exasperated that current install issues have been dangling as long as they are.
We may need a procedure for triangulating between 6 week releases and letting versions with known install problems dangle for days on end spoiling first encounters. | 00:57:43 |
