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23 May 2023
@k900:0upti.meK900 joined the room.09:32:58
@k900:0upti.meK900Hey, I fiiled https://github.com/DeterminateSystems/nix-installer/issues/474 already but was originally going to post here09:33:24
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@hexa:lossy.networkhexawait, steam does special handling of /nix already?10:23:31
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa * wait, steam does special handling of /nix?10:24:34
@zhaofeng:zhaofeng.liZhaofeng LiNot Steam but SteamOS. They just added a bind-mount of /nix since the root is read-only10:25:31
@hexa:lossy.networkhexabasically what I meant 😄10:25:53
@zhaofeng:zhaofeng.liZhaofeng LiPretty surprised that they added this though. Looks like they are somewhat interested in Nix to add such a specific workaround10:27:35
@k900:0upti.meK900There's a lot of people on youtube recommending people use Nix to install stuff on Steam Deck11:43:22
@graham:grahamc.comgrahamoh cool :D11:57:34
24 May 2023
@hoverbear:matrix.org@hoverbear:matrix.orghttps://meet.google.com/dwy-yvjd-zpc14:00:00
@hoverbear:matrix.org@hoverbear:matrix.orgMeeting today14:00:05
@matthewkenigsberg:matrix.org@matthewkenigsberg:matrix.org Théophane: could we get some decisions from the Nix team about which features need to be changed to start distributing the experimental installer? The differences are telemetry as well as what's listed here: https://github.com/NixOS/experimental-nix-installer#installation-differences 14:41:51
25 May 2023
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius changed their display name from raitobezarius to disko in NixOS 23.11 when.13:32:56
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius changed their display name from disko in NixOS 23.11 when to raitobezarius.13:37:48
@graham:grahamc.comgrahamI posted some performance statistics from github actions: https://discourse.nixos.org/t/introducing-the-determinate-nix-installer/25848/917:31:16
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius

That introduces the use of auto-uid-allocation, and the performance impact on Linux is stunning, making 100% of installs complete in fewer than 5s:

more of this please

17:32:05
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusbeautiful17:32:10
@graham:grahamc.comgrahamwe only serve 0.9.0 5% of the time right now, but we're about to increase that to 20% today17:32:41
@k900:0upti.meK900So was the slow part just shelling out to adduser however many times? 17:32:53
@graham:grahamc.comgraham(I'm quite cautious about auto-uid-allocation having surprising side effects)17:32:56
@graham:grahamc.comgrahamwell, we exec it, ... but yeah17:33:05
@graham:grahamc.comgraham * well, I think we exec it, ... but yeah17:33:08
@k900:0upti.meK900Cool 17:33:33
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius
In reply to @graham:grahamc.com
(I'm quite cautious about auto-uid-allocation having surprising side effects)
Do you have HPC / big NFS deployment users?
17:35:22
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusI'd target those for those features because they failed a lot with the old script17:35:29
@graham:grahamc.comgrahamit is hard to know :) 17:35:42
@zhaofeng:zhaofeng.liZhaofeng Li
In reply to @raitobezarius:matrix.org
I'd target those for those features because they failed a lot with the old script
Hmm, any links? Curious how any of the installers would behave with /nix already mounted with NFS
17:40:24
@zhaofeng:zhaofeng.liZhaofeng LiYears ago I was trying to convince a school cluster to install Nix globally, did not work out17:40:52
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusThis is more private feedback from sysadmins running HPC in France17:40:53

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