| 15 Mar 2023 |
 @hoverbear:matrix.org | Hi folks! I gather from my colleagues that we didn't manage to put together a meeting today? Sorry about that. I totally blanked that it was Wednesday and I believe Graham is out today. Did anyone have any topics we should cover? If so we can schedule something, otherwise we can reconvene next time. | 15:34:48 |
 @theophane:hufschmitt.net | So that's why I couldn't get in 😄
I was curious to know what the plans for the group were now that your installer is out. I'm still stuck at “let's wait for harmony to be released and then think again” | 16:29:49 |
| @hoverbear:matrix.org | I'm not sure we've decided! | 18:20:42 |
| @hoverbear:matrix.org | I bumped into https://nixos.org/manual/nix/stable/installation/env-variables.html#nix_ssl_cert_file-with-macos-and-the-nix-daemon today, doesn't something similar need to be done on multi-user Linux? I set NIX_SSL_CERT_FILE and installed and systemctl cat nix-daemon.service has nothing about the environment... | 18:40:53 |
| @hoverbear:matrix.org | I'm trying to figure out if it makes sense for me to add a ssl-cert-file arg to Mac or Mac and Linux.... | 18:42:48 |
 abathur | I'm not directly familiar with this issue since I haven't had to configure one, but there's been something in the air recently about this env and cert-intercepting proxies https://github.com/NixOS/nix/issues/7937 | 18:43:30 |
| @hoverbear:matrix.org | We met the same person! https://github.com/DeterminateSystems/nix-installer/issues/289 | 18:44:31 |
| @hoverbear:matrix.org | I'm surprised this isn't a nix.conf setting to be honest. Needing to tweak the init scripts to add an ssl cert is kind of a pain | 18:45:34 |
| @hoverbear:matrix.org | But I don't see a single entry in the nix.conf docs (https://nixos.org/manual/nix/stable/command-ref/conf-file.html) about one | 18:46:00 |
| @hoverbear:matrix.org | 
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| @hoverbear:matrix.org | It seems we respect the environment on Linux but not on Mac where they have to set it at the service level? | 18:52:35 |
| 16 Mar 2023 |
 @grahamc:nixos.org | sorry for yesterday, tuesday I started feeling awful and I tested positive for covid. I still feel terrible but I tested negative yesterday and today, so I guess it is just a horrible cold | 13:20:31 |
| @grahamc:nixos.org | re: what we're going to do here, I think most folks here are interested in upstreaming the work but aren't really clear on who can decide that, and how to bring the right people into the conversation | 13:21:19 |
| 17 Mar 2023 |
| @hoverbear:matrix.org | After a discussion today Eelco opened https://github.com/NixOS/nix/pull/8062 which would allow installers to set ssl-cert-file instead of requiring manual follow up steps as documented for Mac (and not documented for Linux at all) here: https://nixos.org/manual/nix/stable/installation/env-variables.html#nix_ssl_cert_file-with-macos-and-the-nix-daemon | 18:57:32 |
| @hoverbear:matrix.org | As a workaround in nix-installer I opened https://github.com/DeterminateSystems/nix-installer/pull/347 which creates a systemd override on Linux and runs setenv on Mac during install. | 18:59:10 |
| 25 Mar 2023 |
|  rbutani joined the room. | 23:56:08 |
| 29 Mar 2023 |
| @grahamc:nixos.org | @room We have a scheduled meeting in 4 minutes, see y'all soon:
Nix installer workgroup meeting
Wednesday, March 29 · 10:00 – 11:00am
Google Meet joining info
Video call link: https://meet.google.com/dwy-yvjd-zpc
Or dial: (US) +1 470-273-8306 PIN: 426 585 808#
More phone numbers: https://tel.meet/dwy-yvjd-zpc?pin=1450247081293 | 13:57:27 |
| @grahamc:nixos.org | https://md.darmstadt.ccc.de/WUJ_c_o_STGCmoBsq2UYZQ | 14:04:36 |
| 5 Apr 2023 |
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| 12 Apr 2023 |
| @grahamc:nixos.org | @room anything on the agenda for the week? If not, I propose we cancel today's? | 13:38:44 |
| @grahamc:nixos.org | (without any replies I'm going to assume we're canceled, but I'm happy to meet if folks have agenda items!) | 13:53:48 |
 Matthew Kenigsberg | Fine by me | 13:55:52 |
| abathur | fine by me as well; might be worth having a way to accrue an agenda beforehand, all I can think of on the spot is that someone's asking for the official installer to follow detsys in not installing channels :) | 13:58:56 |
| @grahamc:nixos.org | good point 😬 | 13:59:16 |
| abathur | but I imagine we're in a bit of a lull until/unless we know if Nix is going to adopt an ~officially-experimental | 13:59:50 |
| Matthew Kenigsberg | The meeting notes for the Nix maintenance team say Nix is going to make it officially experimental | 14:11:33 |
| @theophane:hufschmitt.net | In reply to @matthewkenigsberg:matrix.org
The meeting notes for the Nix maintenance team say Nix is going to make it officially experimental Yes, sorry I didn't come back to you after that. We're willing to try this out, provided someone is willing to do the work of moving/forking it to the NixOS org, making it available from the website, etc (because we don't have the bandwidth to do it ourselves) | 14:41:21 |
| @theophane:hufschmitt.net | Si I think we'll have to discuss a plan together and decide who would do that (or ask for volunteers to help doing it) | 14:42:25 |
| 17 Apr 2023 |
|  GenericNerdyUsername joined the room. | 22:58:31 |
| GenericNerdyUsername | I found an installer related bug a while back, but just remembered that I didnt report it anywhere, it may or may not still exist | 23:01:40 |
