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6 Mar 2023
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.org /usr/share/fish/vendor-conf.d the fish code is really annoying, there is no way to know where to put stufff really 14:34:47
@abathur:matrix.orgabathursounds about right16:04:00
7 Mar 2023
@abathur:matrix.orgabathur

I'm a little exasperated that current install issues have been dangling as long as they are.

We may need a procedure for triangulating between 6nweek releases and letting versions with known install problems dangle for days on end spoiling first encounters.

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@abathur:matrix.orgabathur* I'm a little exasperated that current install issues have been dangling as long as they are. We may need a procedure for triangulating between 6 week releases and letting versions with known install problems dangle for days on end spoiling first encounters.00:57:43
@abathur:matrix.orgabathurthese are good for a catch-up on what I'm referring to: https://github.com/NixOS/nix/issues/7937 https://github.com/NixOS/nix/issues/799002:35:43
@abathur:matrix.orgabathurhttps://github.com/NixOS/nix/issues/7937#issuecomment-145747779905:06:40
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orgeelco reverted the curl install script to 2.13.3: https://github.com/NixOS/nix/issues/7984#issuecomment-145853567317:24:56
15 Mar 2023
@hoverbear:matrix.orgAnaHi folks! I gather from my colleagues that we didn't manage to put together a meeting today? Sorry about that. I totally blanked that it was Wednesday and I believe Graham is out today. Did anyone have any topics we should cover? If so we can schedule something, otherwise we can reconvene next time.15:34:48
@theophane:hufschmitt.net@theophane:hufschmitt.netSo that's why I couldn't get in 😄 I was curious to know what the plans for the group were now that your installer is out. I'm still stuck at “let's wait for harmony to be released and then think again”16:29:49
@hoverbear:matrix.orgAnaI'm not sure we've decided!18:20:42
@hoverbear:matrix.orgAna I bumped into https://nixos.org/manual/nix/stable/installation/env-variables.html#nix_ssl_cert_file-with-macos-and-the-nix-daemon today, doesn't something similar need to be done on multi-user Linux? I set NIX_SSL_CERT_FILE and installed and systemctl cat nix-daemon.service has nothing about the environment... 18:40:53
@hoverbear:matrix.orgAna I'm trying to figure out if it makes sense for me to add a ssl-cert-file arg to Mac or Mac and Linux.... 18:42:48
@abathur:matrix.orgabathurI'm not directly familiar with this issue since I haven't had to configure one, but there's been something in the air recently about this env and cert-intercepting proxies https://github.com/NixOS/nix/issues/793718:43:30
@hoverbear:matrix.orgAnaWe met the same person! https://github.com/DeterminateSystems/nix-installer/issues/28918:44:31
@hoverbear:matrix.orgAna I'm surprised this isn't a nix.conf setting to be honest. Needing to tweak the init scripts to add an ssl cert is kind of a pain 18:45:34
@hoverbear:matrix.orgAnaBut I don't see a single entry in the nix.conf docs (https://nixos.org/manual/nix/stable/command-ref/conf-file.html) about one18:46:00
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@hoverbear:matrix.orgAnaIt seems we respect the environment on Linux but not on Mac where they have to set it at the service level?18:52:35
16 Mar 2023
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orgsorry for yesterday, tuesday I started feeling awful and I tested positive for covid. I still feel terrible but I tested negative yesterday and today, so I guess it is just a horrible cold13:20:31
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orgre: what we're going to do here, I think most folks here are interested in upstreaming the work but aren't really clear on who can decide that, and how to bring the right people into the conversation13:21:19
17 Mar 2023
@hoverbear:matrix.orgAna After a discussion today Eelco opened https://github.com/NixOS/nix/pull/8062 which would allow installers to set ssl-cert-file instead of requiring manual follow up steps as documented for Mac (and not documented for Linux at all) here: https://nixos.org/manual/nix/stable/installation/env-variables.html#nix_ssl_cert_file-with-macos-and-the-nix-daemon 18:57:32
@hoverbear:matrix.orgAna As a workaround in nix-installer I opened https://github.com/DeterminateSystems/nix-installer/pull/347 which creates a systemd override on Linux and runs setenv on Mac during install. 18:59:10
25 Mar 2023
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29 Mar 2023
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.org@room We have a scheduled meeting in 4 minutes, see y'all soon: Nix installer workgroup meeting Wednesday, March 29 · 10:00 – 11:00am Google Meet joining info Video call link: https://meet.google.com/dwy-yvjd-zpc Or dial: ‪(US) +1 470-273-8306‬ PIN: ‪426 585 808‬# More phone numbers: https://tel.meet/dwy-yvjd-zpc?pin=145024708129313:57:27
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5 Apr 2023
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