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24 Feb 2023
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.org

in the draft blog post we're putting together, we've said that...

  1. we saw the installer discussion on Discourse and joined the installer working group since we'd already started on an installer
  2. have been discussing the work we've been doing and what the installer does/doesn't do
  3. that our primary goal is to implement a really good installer that configures a Nix we like
  4. it'd be great if the greater community wants to adopt it either as-is or as a fork, but it isn't up to us to make that decision
  5. regularly discussed what else it would need to do to be broadly adoptable by the Nix project, and have done some but not all of that work.

does that match y'all's memories?

15:01:43
@matthewkenigsberg:matrix.orgMatthew Kenigsberg

Matches mine! I think for reception you could tweak point 3 to add that we've discussed making it configurable, so that it could either install a Nix you like or a Nix the community likes

Thanks to you and Ana for all the work you've done on this :)

17:01:48
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orggreat point, thank you!17:03:42
@abathur:matrix.orgabathur
In reply to @grahamc:nixos.org

in the draft blog post we're putting together, we've said that...

  1. we saw the installer discussion on Discourse and joined the installer working group since we'd already started on an installer
  2. have been discussing the work we've been doing and what the installer does/doesn't do
  3. that our primary goal is to implement a really good installer that configures a Nix we like
  4. it'd be great if the greater community wants to adopt it either as-is or as a fork, but it isn't up to us to make that decision
  5. regularly discussed what else it would need to do to be broadly adoptable by the Nix project, and have done some but not all of that work.

does that match y'all's memories?

Generally squares with what I recall as well
17:59:38
27 Feb 2023
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orgjust published: https://determinate.systems/posts/determinate-nix-installer16:10:31
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.org abathur: I really like what you wrote on HN, it says a lot of things I've felt too but didn't really know how to say 18:39:00
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orgalso hard for me to summarize18:39:33
@abathur:matrix.orgabathurtbf I wrote a novella about it there :D18:39:57
@abathur:matrix.orgabathurthe only real TL;DR is that there's just a ton of friction everywhere in every direction--but I don't think that summary would convince anyone who hasn't tilted at the windmill yet18:40:58
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orgright18:56:58
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orgthat tempdir environment variable issue broke me18:57:11
@abathur:matrix.orgabathurit did19:10:05
@abathur:matrix.orgabathursaw it in real time :)19:10:20
@qyliss:fairydust.spaceAlyssa Rosshttps://lobste.rs/s/tu7kjz/introducing_determinate_nix_installer#c_msuqpl23:30:09
@qyliss:fairydust.spaceAlyssa Rosslmk if you want to talk about this :)23:30:29
28 Feb 2023
@bootstrapper:matrix.orgsnick joined the room.03:15:52
1 Mar 2023
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orgmeeting link: https://meet.google.com/dwy-yvjd-zpc14:59:49
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orgnot a lot of turnout, Matthew and I can hold the fort and maybe end early15:05:21

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