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@joerg:thalheim.ioMic92* Yeah that's always a bit of a challenge with packaging in other distros. Packagers are often not deeply in the Nix ecosystem, because otherwise they would likely run NixOS.13:39:16
@juhp:matrix.orgJens PetersenI hope it settles down because it has been plenty of work both upstream and downstream13:39:18
@juhp:matrix.orgJens PetersenIndeed13:39:33
@juhp:matrix.orgJens PetersenAt least I think we have better manpages than upstream now haha13:40:11
@joerg:thalheim.ioMic92I can potentially also include in security announcements in the future. What is the normal fedora workflow for this?13:40:14
@joerg:thalheim.ioMic92* I can potentially also include you in security announcements in the future. What is the normal fedora workflow for this?13:41:18
@juhp:matrix.orgJens PetersenGood question - we kind of have our own security (Red Hat) but it is more focused on RHEL packages of course13:41:19
@juhp:matrix.orgJens Petersen * Good question - we kind of have our own security team (Red Hat) but it is more focused on RHEL packages of course 13:41:30
@juhp:matrix.orgJens Petersen Mic92: but yeah heads-up would be appreciated sure 13:42:21
@joerg:thalheim.ioMic92Do you have access to infra where you can prepare builds/patches in private in Fedora/13:43:10
@juhp:matrix.orgJens Petersen Mic92: I need to check but not that I am aware of for fedora - I guess we would just hold back up until embargo is lifted 13:44:33
@joerg:thalheim.ioMic92Okay, with nixos we are in a similar situation.13:45:00
@juhp:matrix.orgJens PetersenOkay right13:45:13
@joerg:thalheim.ioMic92what we did so far is using a seperate nix org that we invited people into13:45:14
@juhp:matrix.orgJens PetersenAh I see13:45:23
@juhp:matrix.orgJens PetersenBut we do have private bugs in bugzilla that the security team uses for example13:46:50
@juhp:matrix.orgJens Petersen* But we do have private tracking bugs in bugzilla that the security team uses for example - that can only be seen by the package maintainer13:47:27
@juhp:matrix.orgJens PetersenAlso right now I am blocked on 2.32 because we have an older boost library version still :-/ The maintainer is being jolly slow13:48:46
@juhp:matrix.orgJens Petersen* Also right now I am blocked on 2.32 because we have an older boost library version still :-/ The maintainer is being jolly slow - anyway I guess it is not stable yet anyway13:51:18
@joerg:thalheim.ioMic92How long is the maintenance cycle for fedora?13:55:13
@juhp:matrix.orgJens Petersen6 months - but I already built nix for current releases too13:55:40
@juhp:matrix.orgJens PetersenSo similar to nixos actually - maybe just a few weeks earlier13:56:30
@juhp:matrix.orgJens Petersen* So similar to nixos actually - maybe just a month earlier13:56:56
@juhp:matrix.orgJens Petersen* So similar to nixos actually - maybe just a month earlier: we released F43 at the end of Oct (with gnome 49 etc)13:57:20
@juhp:matrix.orgJens PetersenAlso extra difficulty is I am trying to support both nix-daemon and without also13:58:30
@juhp:matrix.orgJens Petersen* 6 months - but I already built nix for current releases too: should go into the testing repo maybe tomorrow13:59:07
@joerg:thalheim.ioMic926 months would align well with NixOS.14:04:42
@juhp:matrix.orgJens PetersenRight - assuming we can keep up with the deps 😅👅14:10:32
@juhp:matrix.orgJens Petersen* Right - assuming we can keep up with the deps 😅😛14:10:42
@joerg:thalheim.ioMic92Actually we are often quiet behind with the deps because we build nix with the current nixos stable release :)14:11:45

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