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| John Ericson | abathur: current it appears the paper says there is an installer "working group" | 18:49:53 |
| John Ericson | * abathur: currently it appears the paper says there is an installer "working group" | 18:49:58 |
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| John Ericson | I don't think we have much of a formal notion of what "working group" is governance wise, would you like to be "bumped up" into a formal team? | 18:50:38 |
| John Ericson | One distinction made elsewhere is "working group = temporary group of people to get specific project done" vs "team = group of people working on something indefinitely" | 18:51:38 |
| John Ericson | So yes while teams are "more powerful", and also you've been working on installer stuff for a long time, I thought it would be good to before "promoting" you all into an indefinite obligation | 18:52:25 |
| John Ericson | * So yes while teams are "more powerful", and also you've been working on installer stuff for a long time, I thought it would be good to ask you before "promoting" you all into an indefinite obligation | 18:57:02 |
| John Ericson | (edited, for the get "to ask" verb above) | 18:57:25 |
 cole-h | In reply to @Ericson2314:matrix.org
One distinction made elsewhere is "working group = temporary group of people to get specific project done" vs "team = group of people working on something indefinitely" I'll let them speak for themselves in more detail if they desire, but I believe the "temporary group of people" is actually a desired quality :P | 19:48:49 |
| John Ericson | that's fine if so! | 19:49:16 |
 abathur | The paper? | 19:49:28 |
| John Ericson | we'll have to define what a working group is, but that can be done | 19:49:31 |
| John Ericson | * abathur: currently it appears the paper trail says there is an installer "working group" | 19:49:53 |
| John Ericson | sorry, "paper" -> "paper trail" | 19:50:04 |
| John Ericson | i.e. me looking at the discourse thread and whatnot | 19:50:13 |
| 15 Apr 2025 |
| abathur | matrix and eventual consistency :) | 13:11:30 |
| abathur | yeah, Cole is roughly right.
I didn't give it the WG designation in the first place but I have at least been thinking of my own ~commitment here as ending after the hand-off we're trying to execute currently | 13:19:53 |
| abathur | i think it's a good point and natural time for the org to make fresh decisions about whether it needs a team and such—as it grapples with questions around how to version/release the installer and how it should cycle relative to nix itself. | 13:23:09 |
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| 20 Apr 2025 |
| John Ericson | OK makes sense! | 18:25:55 |
| John Ericson | happy to keep it a WG / publicize it as WG | 18:26:05 |
| John Ericson | really, tell us what you need | 18:26:11 |
| John Ericson | And tell @tomberek too | 18:26:29 |
