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NixOS + Framework

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17 Sep 2024
@aktaboot:tchncs.deaktaboot
In reply to @niko:nyanbinary.rs
sent an image.
fwiw I always experience issues with bluetooth, and also got this same error
21:47:26
@aktaboot:tchncs.deaktabootbut it's far from new to me so i didn't really experience anything different21:47:56
@aktaboot:tchncs.deaktabootI could trace the error up to a booted 6.10.721:49:18
@aktaboot:tchncs.deaktabootI dont have logs that go before that21:49:44
@llakala:matrix.orgllakala

Someone here brought up a great point: The new kernel mentions things related to framework laptops. On my machine (AMD 7640u), 6.11 seems to accomplish what the kmod drivers were doing for me before.

Is anyone able to replicate this on an Intel Framework? The Phoronix article only mentions a change for AMD drivers, and I'm curious whether the kmod drivers are still necessary on Intel machines.

The things to test are whether 6.10 with the kmod driver has identical functionality to 6.11 without the kmod driver. I've been testing this using Gnome's control center in the top right: it shows a little Keyboard setting when the functionality is working. I'm not sure of a way to test this without Gnome yet.

22:32:20
@llakala:matrix.orgllakala *

Someone here brought up a great point: The new kernel mentions things related to what the kmod drivers currently accomplish. On my machine (AMD 7640u), 6.11 seems to accomplish what the kmod drivers were doing for me before.

Is anyone able to replicate this on an Intel Framework? The Phoronix article only mentions a change for AMD drivers, and I'm curious whether the kmod drivers are still necessary on Intel machines.

The things to test are whether 6.10 with the kmod driver has identical functionality to 6.11 without the kmod driver. I've been testing this using Gnome's control center in the top right: it shows a little Keyboard setting when the functionality is working. I'm not sure of a way to test this without Gnome yet.

22:32:40
@llakala:matrix.orgllakala *

Someone here brought up a great point: The new kernel mentions things related to what the kmod drivers currently accomplish. On my machine (AMD 7640u), 6.11 seems to accomplish what the kmod drivers were doing for me before.

Is anyone able to replicate this on an Intel Framework? The Phoronix article only mentions a change for AMD machines, and I'm curious whether the kmod drivers are still necessary on Intel machines.

The things to test are whether 6.10 with the kmod driver has identical functionality to 6.11 without the kmod driver. I've been testing this using Gnome's control center in the top right: it shows a little Keyboard setting when the functionality is working. I'm not sure of a way to test this without Gnome yet.

22:32:52
19 Sep 2024
@blitz:chat.x86.lolblitz

I can at least confirm that 6.11 without the kmod also has keyboard backlight control, but battery charge control is gone ( no /sys/class/power_supply/BAT1/charge_control_end_threshold)

08:29:51
@blitz:chat.x86.lolblitz *

I can at least confirm that 6.11 on AMD without the kmod also has keyboard backlight control, but battery charge control is gone ( no /sys/class/power_supply/BAT1/charge_control_end_threshold)

08:30:27
@blitz:chat.x86.lolblitz

btw, for people that don't need/want the kmod, you can disable it with: hardware.framework.enableKmod = false;

09:06:59
@niko:nyanbinary.rsnyanbinary 🏳️‍⚧️
In reply to @blitz:chat.x86.lol

I can at least confirm that 6.11 on AMD without the kmod also has keyboard backlight control, but battery charge control is gone ( no /sys/class/power_supply/BAT1/charge_control_end_threshold)

6.12 is when this functionality will be upstreamed
11:44:45
@niko:nyanbinary.rsnyanbinary 🏳️‍⚧️and kmod wont be needed on 6.12 and above11:44:50
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@damccull:matrix.orgdamccullwhat is kmod?02:56:18
@rosscomputerguy:matrix.orgTristan Ross
In reply to @damccull:matrix.org
what is kmod?
Kernel module stuff
23:51:21
@rosscomputerguy:matrix.orgTristan RossPretty sure that's stuff like lsmod, insmod, modprobe, etc.23:51:55
29 Sep 2024
@niko:nyanbinary.rsnyanbinary 🏳️‍⚧️yeah framework-kmod means well00:33:50
@niko:nyanbinary.rsnyanbinary 🏳️‍⚧️framework kernel module :P00:33:58
@niko:nyanbinary.rsnyanbinary 🏳️‍⚧️not very creative ik ik00:34:02
@damccull:matrix.orgdamccullAnd it's not needed anymore?00:36:57
@niko:nyanbinary.rsnyanbinary 🏳️‍⚧️on 6.12 and above though some of the functionality has been merged in 6.11 already00:37:37
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