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On a framework 13 AMD AI 300 Series (with expansiuon cards - top-left USB-C, bottom-left USB-A):

`xhci_hcd 0000:c3:00.0: Refused to change power state from D0 to D3hot

I switched that USB-A Expansion card into my old 11th-gen Framework 13 without these log messages.

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On a framework 13 AMD AI 300 Series (with expansion cards - far-left(1) USB-C, near-left(2) USB-A):

`xhci_hcd 0000:c3:00.0: Refused to change power state from D0 to D3hot

I switched that USB-A Expansion card into my old 11th-gen Framework 13 without these log messages.

  • https://knowledgebase.frame.work/en_us/expansion-card-functionality-on-framework-laptop-13-amd-ryzen-ai-300-series-Hy5SfMRs1l
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On a framework 13 AMD AI 300 Series (with expansion cards - far-left(1) USB-C, near-left(2) USB-A):

xhci_hcd 0000:c3:00.0: Refused to change power state from D0 to D3hot

I switched that USB-A Expansion card into my old 11th-gen Framework 13 without these log messages.

  • https://knowledgebase.frame.work/en_us/expansion-card-functionality-on-framework-laptop-13-amd-ryzen-ai-300-series-Hy5SfMRs1l
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i think this is a pretty well-documented issue. to explain the error message, what's happening is that the kernel is trying to put the USB controller into a low power state (D3hot) but the hardware is refusing because it's still in an active state (D0). i'm pretty sure this is a power mgmt or firmware issue that FW is aware of (and hopefully working on); perhaps we can get an update here.

a workaround for you would be to adjust your port layout. because the USB-A expansion card has higher power draw in ports 1 and 3 you pretty much want to keep it in ports 3 or 4. no idea if you'll encounter the same issue in port 4 (but presumably, you would). so... i guess at the end of the day, you can either ignore the error, or make the leap into the modern era and converge on USB-C everywhere :P

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7 May 2026
@johnazoidberg:matrix.orgDaniel Schaefer (Framework)Under what conditions does that happen?13:02:09
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8 May 2026
@michael.zeagler:matrix.orgJust Some DudeWould this be a good place to troubleshoot my framework 13 not being able to fully sleep and not being able to wake up completely from sleep without using systemctl cancel?02:03:37
@michael.zeagler:matrix.orgJust Some DudeI've tried it on KDE, Gnome, and Cosmic. Happens on all 3.02:04:28
@michael.zeagler:matrix.orgJust Some DudeI tried using kernelPackages_latest and the enableRedistributableFirmware options and they didnt do anything02:05:41
@sudoforge:matrix.orgsudoforge what shows up in dmesg? 02:09:43
@michael.zeagler:matrix.orgJust Some DudeWhat would I be looking for?02:13:54
@sudoforge:matrix.orgsudoforgeerror messages.02:27:35
@michael.zeagler:matrix.orgJust Some DudeIt looks like the only messages are from me authenticating with sudo02:28:59
@sudoforge:matrix.orgsudoforge so, there's literally nothing going on before your systemctl cancel? 02:29:36
@sudoforge:matrix.orgsudoforgeand, can you go into more detail about "not being able to fully sleep" and "not being able to wake up completely from sleep"? what are the symptoms you experience?02:30:16

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