| 17 Nov 2025 |
 Tomodachi94 (they/them) | (Pyrox: I'll try to review your PRs sometime today) | 18:08:32 |
 dish [Fox/It/She] | In reply to @tomodachi94:matrix.org
He said no, and then locked the issue called it sadly | 18:10:24 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | 😠| 18:10:27 |
| Tomodachi94 (they/them) | Another option if we can get consensus is we could move nodePackages to a flake under nix-community | 18:11:31 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | In reply to @tomodachi94:matrix.org
(Pyrox: I'll try to review your PRs sometime today) all good btw, take ur time | 18:14:11 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | In reply to @tomodachi94:matrix.org
Another option if we can get consensus is we could move nodePackages to a flake under nix-community i mean its still a terrible solution to the problem so I'd rather not have it around, and idk who'd want to maintain it anyways | 18:14:48 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | i'm certainly not going to | 18:15:45 |
| Tomodachi94 (they/them) | I'm inclined to suggest that maybe we should just drop all of Sindre Sorhus' stuff from nodePackages since he's anti-lockfile and there's no other good solution at the moment. Other than that, it might be time to start filing issues en masse to upstreams
We should definitely make a statement that we can copy/paste and gently edit for each project
| 19:34:18 |
| Tomodachi94 (they/them) | * I'm inclined to suggest that maybe we should just drop all of Sindre Sorhus' stuff from nodePackages since he's anti-lockfile and there's no other good solution at the moment. Other than that, it might be time to start filing issues en masse to upstreams
We should definitely make a statement that we can copy/paste and gently edit for each project that hasn't already expressed an anti-lockfile stance
| 19:36:06 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | In reply to @tomodachi94:matrix.org
I'm inclined to suggest that maybe we should just drop all of Sindre Sorhus' stuff from nodePackages since he's anti-lockfile and there's no other good solution at the moment. Other than that, it might be time to start filing issues en masse to upstreams
We should definitely make a statement that we can copy/paste and gently edit for each project that hasn't already expressed an anti-lockfile stance
i've considered doing that tbh because of his lockfile stance
just thought it was a bit too petty for nixpkgs >.> though if we do it, fine with me | 20:25:10 |
 dotlambda | I don't think dropping is a bad idea. nodePackages has been deprecated forever and if packages haven't been moved out of it yet we can conclude there's no interest in keeping them around | 21:34:59 |
| dotlambda | Has to wait until after branch-off though | 21:35:22 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | i mean thats not necessarily true | 21:48:57 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | theres a lot of packages that dont have lockfiles and thats why they haven't been repackaged | 21:49:24 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | I'm going to go ahead and do this(draft until post-master branchoff so it'll make it to 26.05) | 23:48:34 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | unless you're already working on it ^^ | 23:48:41 |
| 18 Nov 2025 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | edit: nvm, made it myself | 01:39:49 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | https://github.com/nixos/nixpkgs/pull/462749 | 01:40:06 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | github's diff is screwed as always but its ~5k lines removed i think | 01:41:56 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | yeah manual calculation and the real raw diff is +8,-4819 | 01:43:14 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | also, node-packages.nix is under 1Mib! 919Kib left | 01:44:06 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | * also, node-packages.nix is under 1Mib! 919Kib only! big news | 01:44:11 |
|  Hakase (she/her) joined the room. | 01:57:53 |
| Tomodachi94 (they/them) | Is this after accounting for the above PR? | 03:11:06 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | yes | 03:11:14 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | thats when looking at node-packages.nix on that PR's branch | 03:11:28 |
|  Yorusaka Miyabi joined the room. | 04:23:32 |
| dotlambda | In reply to @pyrox:pyrox.dev
theres a lot of packages that dont have lockfiles and thats why they haven't been repackaged There are plenty of packages with censored lock files. So that shouldn't have stopped people from repackaging | 06:54:51 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | true, but I do not want every package still in nodePackages to be repackaged with an in-tree lockfile. Then we end up with a worse version of how it was before I started doing my debloat work, where we have megabytes and megabytes of generated inscrutible lockfiles in-tree. We need a better solution than vendoring, and until one is implemented, I do not want to package projects that do not wish to follow current best-practices | 07:02:13 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | Hell, I've been working to remove those vendored lockfiles where I can, because they are in many cases solutions to problems that don't exist, or a symptom of using old tooling(such as mkYarnPackage) where using new tooling allows getting rid of giant vendored lockfiles and helps decrease nixpkgs' bloat(ref: #327064) | 07:04:04 |
