| 12 Sep 2023 |
 @vid:matrix.org | one inflection might be this channel is for very NixOS specific development, whereas I'm talking about relating it to a general experience where if you have node/npm (or their equivalents) you're up for anything. NixOS specific development could be using a nix file instead of package.json, or nix specific directives, etc. | 12:07:33 |
 Lily Foster | I don't think we actually even have a topic technically set, so 🤷♀️ | 12:08:05 |
| Lily Foster | I'm fine with general node.js discussion on nix/nixpkgs/nixos here tbh. Not like it gets much activity anyway | 12:09:05 |
| Lily Foster | (I just don't have playwright- or node-specific answers for you on this particular problem. Someone else might though) | 12:10:17 |
| @vid:matrix.org | I could point you at a repo if you're really bored / curious.
clone https://github.com/withhaibun/haibun-e2e-tests
then npm i; npm run build; npm run test counter | 12:14:27 |
| @vid:matrix.org | I had to keep going so I created an ubuntu vm, but it's … not ideal | 12:16:12 |
| Lily Foster | Yeah the best we have for running arbitrary prebuilt files on nixos without modification is (the incredibly hacky) nix-ld + envfs + something like nix-alien or (the slightly less incredibly hacky) steam-run. If the latter broke though you could open a nixpkgs issue to get it fixed | 12:26:16 |
| Lily Foster | Or you could just run it in a container and use podman in your personal build commands | 12:26:41 |
| Lily Foster | Or nixify the project 😈 | 12:26:53 |
| @vid:matrix.org | I thought about using containers that but I want to be focused on general DX. already have people on mac &c using it. I mean I know why you're saying it but nixos is basically the odd one out here, creating the problem, even if it's ultimately a better way | 12:28:21 |
| @vid:matrix.org | * I thought about using containers but I want to be focused on general DX. already have people on mac &c using it. I mean I know why you're saying it but nixos is basically the odd one out here, creating the problem, even if it's ultimately a better way | 12:29:01 |
| Lily Foster | Feel free to work on or look for more/better nixos solutions here, I'm just saying I don't know anything better while still using nixos | 12:29:40 |
| Lily Foster | You could use direnv or something too to set up the environment automatically on your system without having to change it system-wide or change upstream stuff | 12:30:34 |
| Lily Foster | (Fwiw I do use nix-ld, envfs, nix-alien, and direnv all to some degree specifically for dealing with devving on random repos occasionally. I often find myself just writing a quick shell.nix for a repo that handles env setup and satisfying the project's expectations, and that combo usually works for me. I don't use playwright though so obviously ymmv) | 12:31:57 |
| @vid:matrix.org | yes I appreciate that. my experience getting a lot of things working on nixos was fantastic, I was raving about it to colleagues, but this is a lot. I want haibun to be easily consumable on any platform, which is already a lot of work. no idea what adaptation would look like on cloud. this is a typical developer pov, that's all I can say. | 12:33:14 |
| Lily Foster | (I take that back. It doesn't work for the systemd test suite so I do keep a fedora vm around for that) | 12:33:28 |
| Lily Foster | In reply to @vid:matrix.org
yes I appreciate that. my experience getting a lot of things working on nixos was fantastic, I was raving about it to colleagues, but this is a lot. I want haibun to be easily consumable on any platform, which is already a lot of work. no idea what adaptation would look like on cloud. this is a typical developer pov, that's all I can say. Yeah your pov is appreciated! I just wish I had better answers | 12:33:54 |
| Lily Foster | In reply to @lily:lily.flowers
(I take that back. It doesn't work for the systemd test suite so I do keep a fedora vm around for that) (Systemd test suite has pretty deep system and kernel expectations that must be met. Someone was working on a NixOS test framework setup that runs it though) | 12:34:35 |
| Lily Foster | In reply to @lily:lily.flowers
Yeah your pov is appreciated! I just wish I had better answers (If you do find something that helps developer DX for this, do send it over to awesome-nix to make it more discoverable for people too!) | 12:38:28 |
| Lily Foster | * (If you do find something that helps developer experience for this, do send it over to awesome-nix to make it more discoverable for people too!) | 12:38:45 |
| @vid:matrix.org | I would love to, but have to put it aside right now. nixos is a means to an end for me, not the end. | 12:38:59 |
| Lily Foster | (Also I was kinda suggesting asking in a more general channel because people a lot smarter than me are more likely to give you better answers there 😅) | 12:42:31 |
| @vid:matrix.org | maybe when I have more time. I'm very happy with nixos otherwise. and since I use workspaces with hotkeys, having to use a vm is not the end of the world. | 12:46:57 |
| @vid:matrix.org | * maybe when I have more time. I'm very happy with nixos otherwise. and since I use workspaces with hotkeys and x-forwarding, having to use a vm is not the end of the world. | 12:49:12 |
| @vid:matrix.org | * maybe when I have more time. I'm very happy with nixos otherwise. and since I use workspaces with hotkeys and x-forwarding, having to use a vm is not the end of the world. it is a pretty convoluted setup, though. | 12:50:29 |
| @vid:matrix.org | * maybe when I have more time. I'm very happy with nixos otherwise. and since I use workspaces with hotkeys and x-forwarding, having to use a vm is not the end of the world. it is a pretty convoluted setup, though. but that will only get worse if I start tailouring the repo to the OS. | 12:51:56 |
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| @vid:matrix.org | Redacted or Malformed Event | 14:28:47 |
