| 2 Oct 2025 |
 dish [Fox/It/She] | welp here i go down that rabbit hole lol | 15:50:14 |
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 Emma [it/its] | question: how do i override the build command with buildNpmPackage? | 13:46:53 |
| Emma [it/its] | nvm, npmBuildScript lol | 13:47:33 |
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| @eveeifyeve:matrix.org | CC Winter & Lily Foster: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/317927#issuecomment-3383799636 | 02:58:55 |
 Winter | you don’t have to ping us here too, i assure you we read GitHub notifs | 03:00:16 |
| @eveeifyeve:matrix.org | I only did it because tomberek advised me in the unofficial nix discord to do so. | 07:40:50 |
| @eveeifyeve:matrix.org | * I only did it because tomberek advised me in the unofficial nix discord to do so. Incase you miss your notfications. | 07:41:22 |
| @eveeifyeve:matrix.org | * I only did it because tomberek advised me in the unofficial nix discord to do so. In case you miss your notifications. | 07:41:36 |
| 11 Oct 2025 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | https://github.com/orgs/pnpm/discussions/8602 😔 | 03:13:29 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | the js ecosystem makes me so sad | 03:15:50 |
 Cobalt | Well, someone motivated could figure out how to bootstrap it from earlier versions.
My guess is that a chain of at most three will work. Don't GCC and friends also need that? It's a bit overkill for a package manager though | 03:22:28 |
| Cobalt | * | 03:23:55 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | every version with a lockfile has used pnpm lockfiles | 03:27:13 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | and they have changed their lockfile schema a lot so you would need a lot of intermediate versions to bootstrap from somewhere with no lockfile | 03:27:36 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | the last version with no lockfile is v0.64.2 from 2017, and the next release(0.64.3) uses a shrinkwrap.yaml file, which is the precursor to pnpm-lock.yaml | 03:28:46 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | the best way to do this would be a package-lock.json and a patch to make the minimal critical build steps use npm instead of pnpm cli | 03:29:23 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | but thats a very involved patch and its really sad that they dont allow for this | 03:29:33 |
| Cobalt | That is worse than expected, thank you for the explainer | 03:35:47 |
| Cobalt | An alternative approach might be to write a translator between lockfile formats. But that's also quite a bit of extra work | 03:44:36 |
 magic_rb | Leave it to the JS people to make bootstrap impossible. JS folk seem to be living a fantasy land where nothing but npx matters and everything can be resolved with just one more package manager and web framework | 06:19:45 |
| magic_rb | * | 06:20:07 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | yeag | 06:33:27 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | i've been researching with a friend and just | 06:33:46 |
| dish [Fox/It/She] | gods it gives me a headache | 06:33:52 |
 Marie | same thing applies to bun last time i looked at it | 09:50:22 |
| Marie | :/ | 09:50:24 |
