| 23 Feb 2026 |
 hexa | I have doubts in most distros building a proper Firefox with all the features it provides | 15:10:24 |
| hexa | e.g. Firefox 95 added a sandboxing feature that requires wasm cross compiling https://blog.mozilla.org/attack-and-defense/2021/12/06/webassembly-and-back-again-fine-grained-sandboxing-in-firefox-95/ | 15:11:36 |
 emily | I think most distros just have fixed prepackaged cross compilers for things like that | 15:40:47 |
| hexa | not sure what "most" here means | 15:41:53 |
| hexa | arch, fedora and gentoo provide proper firefox builds | 15:42:08 |
| hexa | other distros less so and especially debian only provides a very limited esr edition | 15:42:30 |
| hexa | at which point … get the upstream flatpak instead 🤷♂️ | 15:42:58 |
| emily | I guess Fedora, Debian, Ubuntu, Arch, Alpine, Gentoo is "most distros" for me 😅 | 17:37:10 |
| emily | I didn't realize Debian only had ESR, even on testing/unstable. it looks like they do have the WASM stuff though | 17:37:32 |
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 @aloisw:julia0815.de | Unfortunately that doesn't have all sandbox layers either, due to user namespaces not working. | 17:42:14 |
| hexa | oh snap 🫣 | 17:50:49 |
| emily | would you rather I say NixOS is like most distros? :D | 17:51:17 |
 nbp | under the hood, yes. It just has the greatest hood of all :P | 17:52:31 |
| hexa | alpine looks fine too | 17:53:33 |
| 24 Feb 2026 |
| hexa | https://hacks.mozilla.org/2026/02/goodbye-innerhtml-hello-sethtml-stronger-xss-protection-in-firefox-148/ | 13:17:42 |
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| 5 Mar 2026 |
| nbp | Personal question, How would you rate the effort needed to package Firefox over the last year? | 14:14:57 |
| hexa | managable if you have the build capacity and can arrange it to be an async task | 14:57:48 |
| hexa | every major bump means: 4 platforms, 2 releases = 8 packages, 4 nixos tests, times two for backports, times three during for two months in the year during release season | 14:58:46 |
| hexa | on a moderate machine with a modest number of cores (say 10) the build takes me 2h45m until the nixos test is complete | 14:59:35 |
| hexa | on a fast machine (epyc 2nd gen, 64 cores) its more like 1h45m | 14:59:56 |
| hexa | so not a meaningful difference if I queue the builds and leave it running while going afk and doing other things | 15:00:41 |
| hexa | * so not a meaningful difference, because not all builders are so new and fat. if I queue the builds and leave it running while going afk and doing other things | 15:01:08 |
| hexa | * so not a meaningful difference, because not all builders are so new and fat. if I queue the builds and leave it running while going afk and doing other things it's fine. | 15:01:19 |
| hexa | sometimes people get a bit pushy and approve or push for merge on untested PRs and that is mildly annoying | 15:01:45 |
| nbp | Thanks for answering! | 15:04:36 |
