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26 Mar 2026
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilywould require matching upstream reproducible builds (which would probably require packaging specific versions of libs/toolchains/etc. in Nixpkgs that wouldn't be great maintainability-wise)01:03:56
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31 Mar 2026
@hythera:matrix.orgHythera Update PR has been open for a week by now. If those PRs continue to take so long to get merged, we probably need to mark Librewolf as insecure too :(
I'd appreciate if someone could take a look at the update.
https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/503270 		09:01:40
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyprobably need to find an active committer to help maintain14:26:34
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilythat's why we have that guideline14:26:39
@hexa:lossy.networkhexabingo14:26:47
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilybut unfortunately the ones who have volunteered for browser forks as a result are often quite absentee about it14:27:03
@hexa:lossy.networkhexathe committer in question would be fpletz14:27:27
5 Apr 2026
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7 Apr 2026
@whispers:catgirl.cloudwhispers [& it/fae]Today's ESR is looking rough… 40-some commits in an unscheduled point release is approaching some scheduled releases09:28:00
@whispers:catgirl.cloudwhispers [& it/fae] * 09:28:16
@whispers:catgirl.cloudwhispers [& it/fae] * 09:28:28
@whispers:catgirl.cloudwhispers [& it/fae] * today's ESR is looking rough… 40-some commits in an unscheduled point release is approaching some scheduled releases. such wonderful signs :)) 10:17:35
10 Apr 2026
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12 Apr 2026
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa vcunat thunderbird 148.0.1 -> 149.0.2? 23:17:41
13 Apr 2026
@vcunat:matrix.orgvcunatRight, my mistake, lagging quite a bit behind. I'm trying to update it right now.08:22:44
@hexa:lossy.networkhexafor some reason it now wants hg when creating debug symbols here10:48:36
@hexa:lossy.networkhexadid you see that, too?10:48:43
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa 
0:04.84 BUILDSTATUS@ipc/app END_dumpsymbols plugin-container_syms.track
0:04.84 make[1]: Leaving directory '/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/objdir/ipc/app'
0:04.92 abort: .hg/sharedpath points to nonexistent directory /builds/worker/checkouts/hg-store/e4f4569d451a5e0d12a6aa33ebd916f979dd8faa/.hg
0:04.96 abort: .hg/sharedpath points to nonexistent directory /builds/worker/checkouts/hg-store/e4f4569d451a5e0d12a6aa33ebd916f979dd8faa/.hg
0:04.96 abort: .hg/sharedpath points to nonexistent directory /builds/worker/checkouts/hg-store/e4f4569d451a5e0d12a6aa33ebd916f979dd8faa/.hg
0:04.96 abort: .hg/sharedpath points to nonexistent directory /builds/worker/checkouts/hg-store/e4f4569d451a5e0d12a6aa33ebd916f979dd8faa/.hg
0:04.98 Failed to get HG Repo for /build/thunderbird-149.0.2/comm
0:04.98 Failed to get HG Repo for /build/thunderbird-149.0.2/comm
0:04.98 Failed to get HG Repo for /build/thunderbird-149.0.2/comm
0:05.00 Broken pipe (os error Broken pipe32) (os error
0:05.00 32)
0:05.00 Broken pipe (os error 32)
0:05.01 Traceback (most recent call last):
0:05.01   File "<frozen runpy>", line 198, in _run_module_as_main
0:05.01   File "<frozen runpy>", line 88, in _run_code
0:05.01   File "/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/python/mozbuild/mozbuild/action/dumpsymbols.py", line 109, in <module>
0:05.01     sys.exit(main(sys.argv[1:]))
0:05.01              ~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
0:05.01   File "/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/python/mozbuild/mozbuild/action/dumpsymbols.py", line 105, in main
0:05.01     return dump_symbols(args.library_or_program, args.tracking_file, args.count_ctors)
0:05.01   File "/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/python/mozbuild/mozbuild/action/dumpsymbols.py", line 85, in dump_symbols
0:05.01     out_files = subprocess.check_output(args, universal_newlines=True)
0:05.01   File "/nix/store/pzdalg368npikvpq4ncz2saxnz19v53k-python3-3.13.12/lib/python3.13/subprocess.py", line 472, in check_output
0:05.01     return run(*popenargs, stdout=PIPE, timeout=timeout, check=True,
0:05.01            ~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
0:05.01                **kwargs).stdout
0:05.01                ^^^^^^^^^
0:05.01   File "/nix/store/pzdalg368npikvpq4ncz2saxnz19v53k-python3-3.13.12/lib/python3.13/subprocess.py", line 577, in run
0:05.01     raise CalledProcessError(retcode, process.args,
0:05.01                              output=stdout, stderr=stderr)
0:05.01 subprocess.CalledProcessError: Command '['/build/mozbuild/srcdirs/thunderbird-149.0.2-f620333ad422/_virtualenvs/build/bin/python', '/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/toolkit/crashreporter/tools/symbolstore.py', '-c', '--vcs-info', '--install-manifest=/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/objdir/_build_manifests/install/dist_include,/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/objdir/dist/include', '-s', '/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/comm', '-s', '/build/thunderbird-149.0.2', '/nix/store/5haf0443agadwwh0qf23vd6pq4baq4mr-dump_syms-2.3.7/bin/dump_syms', '/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/objdir/dist/crashreporter-symbols', '/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/objdir/dist/bin/rnp-cli']' returned non-zero exit status 1.
0:05.01 Traceback (most recent call last):
0:05.01   File "<frozen runpy>", line 198, in _run_module_as_main
0:05.01   File "<frozen runpy>", line 88, in _run_code
0:05.01   File "/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/python/mozbuild/mozbuild/action/dumpsymbols.py", line 109, in <module>
0:05.01     sys.exit(main(sys.argv[1:]))
0:05.01              ~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
0:05.01   File "/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/python/mozbuild/mozbuild/action/dumpsymbols.py", line 105, in main
0:05.01     return dump_symbols(args.library_or_program, args.tracking_file, args.count_ctors)
0:05.01   File "/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/python/mozbuild/mozbuild/action/dumpsymbols.py", line 85, in dump_symbols
0:05.01     out_files = subprocess.check_output(args, universal_newlines=True)
0:05.01   File "/nix/store/pzdalg368npikvpq4ncz2saxnz19v53k-python3-3.13.12/lib/python3.13/subprocess.py", line 472, in check_output
0:05.01     return run(*popenargs, stdout=PIPE, timeout=timeout, check=True,
0:05.01            ~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
0:05.01                **kwargs).stdout
0:05.01                ^^^^^^^^^
0:05.01   File "/nix/store/pzdalg368npikvpq4ncz2saxnz19v53k-python3-3.13.12/lib/python3.13/subprocess.py", line 577, in run
0:05.01     raise CalledProcessError(retcode, process.args,
0:05.01                              output=stdout, stderr=stderr)
0:05.01 subprocess.CalledProcessError: Command '['/build/mozbuild/srcdirs/thunderbird-149.0.2-f620333ad422/_virtualenvs/build/bin/python', '/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/toolkit/crashreporter/tools/symbolstore.py', '-c', '--vcs-info', '--install-manifest=/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/objdir/_build_manifests/install/dist_include,/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/objdir/dist/include', '-s', '/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/comm', '-s', '/build/thunderbird-149.0.2', '/nix/store/5haf0443agadwwh0qf23vd6pq4baq4mr-dump_syms-2.3.7/bin/dump_syms', '/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/objdir/dist/crashreporter-symbols', '/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/objdir/dist/bin/rnpkeys']' returned non-zero exit status 1.
0:05.02 Traceback (most recent call last):
0:05.02   File "<frozen runpy>", line 198, in _run_module_as_main
0:05.02   File "<frozen runpy>", line 88, in _run_code
0:05.02   File "/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/python/mozbuild/mozbuild/action/dumpsymbols.py", line 109, in <module>
0:05.02     sys.exit(main(sys.argv[1:]))
0:05.02              ~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
0:05.02   File "/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/python/mozbuild/mozbuild/action/dumpsymbols.py", line 105, in main
0:05.02     return dump_symbols(args.library_or_program, args.tracking_file, args.count_ctors)
0:05.02   File "/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/python/mozbuild/mozbuild/action/dumpsymbols.py", line 85, in dump_symbols
0:05.02     out_files = subprocess.check_output(args, universal_newlines=True)
0:05.02   File "/nix/store/pzdalg368npikvpq4ncz2saxnz19v53k-python3-3.13.12/lib/python3.13/subprocess.py", line 472, in check_output
0:05.02     return run(*popenargs, stdout=PIPE, timeout=timeout, check=True,
0:05.02            ~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
0:05.02                **kwargs).stdout
0:05.02                ^^^^^^^^^
0:05.02   File "/nix/store/pzdalg368npikvpq4ncz2saxnz19v53k-python3-3.13.12/lib/python3.13/subprocess.py", line 577, in run
0:05.02     raise CalledProcessError(retcode, process.args,
0:05.02                              output=stdout, stderr=stderr)
0:05.02 subprocess.CalledProcessError: Command '['/build/mozbuild/srcdirs/thunderbird-149.0.2-f620333ad422/_virtualenvs/build/bin/python', '/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/toolkit/crashreporter/tools/symbolstore.py', '-c', '--vcs-info', '--install-manifest=/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/objdir/_build_manifests/install/dist_include,/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/objdir/dist/include', '-s', '/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/comm', '-s', '/build/thunderbird-149.0.2', '/nix/store/5haf0443agadwwh0qf23vd6pq4baq4mr-dump_syms-2.3.7/bin/dump_syms', '/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/objdir/dist/crashreporter-symbols', '/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/objdir/dist/bin/thunderbird']' returned non-zero exit status 1.
0:05.04 make[1]: *** [/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/config/rules.mk:655: rnp-cli_syms.track] Error 1
0:05.04 make[1]: Leaving directory '/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/objdir/comm/third_party/rnp/src/rnp'
0:05.04 make: *** [/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/config/recurse.mk:72: comm/third_party/rnp/src/rnp/syms] Error 2
0:05.04 make: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
0:05.04 make[1]: *** [/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/config/rules.mk:655: rnpkeys_syms.track] Error 1
0:05.04 make[1]: Leaving directory '/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/objdir/comm/third_party/rnp/src/rnpkeys'
0:05.04 make: *** [/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/config/recurse.mk:72: comm/third_party/rnp/src/rnpkeys/syms] Error 2
0:05.04 make[1]: *** [/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/config/rules.mk:655: thunderbird_syms.track] Error 1
0:05.04 make[1]: Leaving directory '/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/objdir/comm/mail/app'
0:05.04 make: *** [/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/config/recurse.mk:72: comm/mail/app/syms] Error 2
0:05.14 Finished processing /build/thunderbird-149.0.2/objdir/dist/bin/libgkcodecs.so in 0.96s
0:05.16 abort: .hg/sharedpath points to nonexistent directory /builds/worker/checkouts/hg-store/e4f4569d451a5e0d12a6aa33ebd916f979dd8faa/.hg
0:05.18 Failed to get HG Repo for /build/thunderbird-149.0.2/comm
0:05.20 BUILDSTATUS@config/external/gkcodecs END_dumpsymbols libgkcodecs.so_syms.track
0:05.20 make[1]: Leaving directory '/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/objdir/config/external/gkcodecs'
0:05.21 Broken pipe (os error 32)
0:05.21 Traceback (most recent call last):
0:05.21   File "<frozen runpy>", line 198, in _run_module_as_main
0:05.21   File "<frozen runpy>", line 88, in _run_code
0:05.21   File "/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/python/mozbuild/mozbuild/action/dumpsymbols.py", line 109, in <module>
0:05.21     sys.exit(main(sys.argv[1:]))
0:05.21              ~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
0:05.21   File "/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/python/mozbuild/mozbuild/action/dumpsymbols.py", line 105, in main
0:05.21     return dump_symbols(args.library_or_program, args.tracking_file, args.count_ctors)
0:05.21   File "/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/python/mozbuild/mozbuild/action/dumpsymbols.py", line 85, in dump_symbols
0:05.21     out_files = subprocess.check_output(args, universal_newlines=True)
0:05.21   File "/nix/store/pzdalg368npikvpq4ncz2saxnz19v53k-python3-3.13.12/lib/python3.13/subprocess.py", line 472, in check_output
0:05.21     return run(*popenargs, stdout=PIPE, timeout=timeout, check=True,
0:05.21            ~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
0:05.21                **kwargs).stdout
0:05.21                ^^^^^^^^^
0:05.21   File "/nix/store/pzdalg368npikvpq4ncz2saxnz19v53k-python3-3.13.12/lib/python3.13/subprocess.py", line 577, in run
0:05.21     raise CalledProcessError(retcode, process.args,
0:05.21                              output=stdout, stderr=stderr)
0:05.21 subprocess.CalledProcessError: Command '['/build/mozbuild/srcdirs/thunderbird-149.0.2-f620333ad422/_virtualenvs/build/bin/python', '/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/toolkit/crashreporter/tools/symbolstore.py', '-c', '--vcs-info', '--install-manifest=/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/objdir/_build_manifests/install/dist_include,/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/objdir/dist/include', '-s', '/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/comm', '-s', '/build/thunderbird-149.0.2', '/nix/store/5haf0443agadwwh0qf23vd6pq4baq4mr-dump_syms-2.3.7/bin/dump_syms', '/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/objdir/dist/crashreporter-symbols', '/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/objdir/dist/bin/crashhelper']' returned non-zero exit status 1.
0:05.24 make[1]: *** [/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/config/rules.mk:655: crashhelper_syms.track] Error 1
0:05.24 make[1]: Leaving directory '/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/objdir/toolkit/crashreporter/crash_helper'
0:05.24 make: *** [/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/config/recurse.mk:72: toolkit/crashreporter/crash_helper/syms] Error 2
0:05.29 abort: .hg/sharedpath points to nonexistent directory /builds/worker/checkouts/hg-store/e4f4569d451a5e0d12a6aa33ebd916f979dd8faa/.hg
0:05.50 abort: .hg/sharedpath points to nonexistent directory /builds/worker/checkouts/hg-store/e4f4569d451a5e0d12a6aa33ebd916f979dd8faa/.hg
0:05.52 Failed to get HG Repo for /build/thunderbird-149.0.2/comm
0:05.54 Broken pipe (os error 32)
0:05.55 Traceback (most recent call last):
0:05.55   File "<frozen runpy>", line 198, in _run_module_as_main
0:05.55   File "<frozen runpy>", line 88, in _run_code
0:05.55   File "/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/python/mozbuild/mozbuild/action/dumpsymbols.py", line 109, in <module>
0:05.55     sys.exit(main(sys.argv[1:]))
0:05.55              ~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
0:05.55   File "/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/python/mozbuild/mozbuild/action/dumpsymbols.py", line 105, in main
0:05.55     return dump_symbols(args.library_or_program, args.tracking_file, args.count_ctors)
0:05.55   File "/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/python/mozbuild/mozbuild/action/dumpsymbols.py", line 85, in dump_symbols
0:05.55     out_files = subprocess.check_output(args, universal_newlines=True)
0:05.55   File "/nix/store/pzdalg368npikvpq4ncz2saxnz19v53k-python3-3.13.12/lib/python3.13/subprocess.py", line 472, in check_output
0:05.55     return run(*popenargs, stdout=PIPE, timeout=timeout, check=True,
0:05.55            ~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
0:05.55                **kwargs).stdout
0:05.55                ^^^^^^^^^
0:05.55   File "/nix/store/pzdalg368npikvpq4ncz2saxnz19v53k-python3-3.13.12/lib/python3.13/subprocess.py", line 577, in run
0:05.55     raise CalledProcessError(retcode, process.args,
0:05.55                              output=stdout, stderr=stderr)
0:05.55 subprocess.CalledProcessError: Command '['/build/mozbuild/srcdirs/thunderbird-149.0.2-f620333ad422/_virtualenvs/build/bin/python', '/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/toolkit/crashreporter/tools/symbolstore.py', '-c', '--vcs-info', '--install-manifest=/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/objdir/_build_manifests/install/dist_include,/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/objdir/dist/include', '-s', '/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/comm', '-s', '/build/thunderbird-149.0.2', '/nix/store/5haf0443agadwwh0qf23vd6pq4baq4mr-dump_syms-2.3.7/bin/dump_syms', '/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/objdir/dist/crashreporter-symbols', '/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/objdir/dist/bin/librnp.so']' returned non-zero exit status 1.
0:05.57 make[1]: *** [/build/thunderbird-149.0.2/config/rules.mk:655: librnp.so_syms.track] Error 1
10:50:34
@hexa:lossy.networkhexathat's already with mercurial provided10:50:39
@vcunat:matrix.orgvcunatI don't get that one.10:56:21
@vcunat:matrix.orgvcunathttps://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/50949110:56:37
@vcunat:matrix.orgvcunatWith this right now I'm getting a weird failure somewhere around the final link.10:57:13
@vcunat:matrix.orgvcunatMaybe it's OOM, though logs don't seem like that.10:59:19
@vcunat:matrix.orgvcunat OK, the log from the last attempt certainly does suggest some hg issue. 11:10:14
@vcunat:matrix.orgvcunat

for some reason it now wants hg when creating debug symbols here

Right, I read it like that, but so far I haven't tried to build with hg.

11:11:30
@hexa:lossy.networkhexapassing hg is not sufficient either11:12:24
@hexa:lossy.networkhexabecause it has no hg checkouts11:12:32
@hexa:lossy.networkhexahttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=202576711:13:31
@hexa:lossy.networkhexagarbage in the tarball11:14:10

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