| 28 Feb 2025 |
 hexa |
- funding is likely an issue, given the google monopoly lawsuit
| 03:45:04 |
| hexa | and mozilla has been in the browser market for 20 years | 03:47:42 |
| hexa | so its funny that so much is happening at once 😄 | 03:47:55 |
| hexa | also … leadership changes again | 03:48:07 |
 emily | I kinda figured they don't see Firefox as that much of a potential revenue source given its ~0 market share. hence all the flailing sround | 03:48:09 |
| emily | but I guess it's enough of one for Google historically | 03:48:18 |
| emily | In reply to @hexa:lossy.network
also … leadership changes again for the worse, it seemed to me from skimming that announcement | 03:48:45 |
| emily | since it doubled down on the "who even cares about Firefox anyway" messaging | 03:49:01 |
| hexa | yup | 03:49:19 |
| hexa | 
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| hexa | 
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| hexa | yeah, ok … the picture is getting clearer | 05:20:36 |
 vcunat | Newer thunderbird-latest(-unwrapped) didn't seem to work well, so it remains rotting. https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/382444#issuecomment-2661364204 | 06:42:02 |
| vcunat | Fortunately we have ESR, though -latest is planned to become officially recommended soon. | 06:42:39 |
| vcunat | (136, was it?) | 06:42:48 |
| vcunat | * (since 136, was it?) | 06:42:51 |
| hexa | yeah, the esr-bin was lagging behind as well sadly | 06:42:54 |
| hexa | https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/384250 | 06:43:05 |
| vcunat | Right, I'm not watching -bin. | 06:43:36 |
 aloisw | In reply to @vcunat:matrix.org
Newer thunderbird-latest(-unwrapped) didn't seem to work well, so it remains rotting. https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/382444#issuecomment-2661364204 Should we guide users towards ESR with a warning then (assuming the profile is compatible with downgrades)? | 07:05:38 |
| vcunat | ESR is the default thunderbird. | 07:05:59 |
| vcunat | But maybe we could mark -latest as insecure. | 07:06:38 |
| vcunat | I'm testing everything with a single profile, so downgrades should be OK. | 07:06:59 |
| aloisw | In reply to @vcunat:matrix.org
ESR is the default thunderbird. Some people have -latest in their config and may not be aware that it is randomly 2 months out of date. | 07:12:17 |
| vcunat | Another option is to just merge the updates. | 07:13:20 |
| aloisw | If downgrades are supported, marking it insecure seems fine. | 07:13:35 |
| aloisw | In reply to @vcunat:matrix.org
Another option is to just merge the updates. I don't think this is a good option if the updates are broken and ESR is fine. | 07:14:23 |
| vcunat | Firefox 136 should happen in 4 days, so we could hope that TB 136 fixes this. | 07:16:50 |
 colemickens | I'm going to test the nixpkgs-mozilla smaller PR against some old/newer nixpkgs and merge it. | 16:47:55 |
| colemickens | But I'd also like to review K900's PR for rewriting flake-firefox-nightly tonight, maybe, and merge it. I tested it a bit yesterday and it seemed to work (though there wasn't a material update so it was a limited test). | 16:48:34 |
