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A room about a number of weird animals (also known as Mozilla products): Firefox, Thunderbird, Spidermonkey, NSS, cacert. Also a little bit of fun times, small amounts of extreme, when building weird animals. But for bugs please file GitHub issues. | Release Schedule: https://whattrainisitnow.com | Crash-Stats: https://crash-stats.mozilla.org/search/?distribution_id=%3Dnixos&product=Firefox&product=Thunderbird48 Servers

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26 Feb 2025
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI ran uMatrix for a while. with I think JS blocked by default, or at least all third-party JS. it was an experience15:50:54
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyanyway just mentioned it because I think people are often under the impression that Lite is a huge downgrade, which I don't think is true for the average user – you can still get cosmetic filtering etc., though custom filtering is a sad downgrade15:51:37
@hexa:lossy.networkhexahttps://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/firefox-news/firefox-terms-of-use/18:44:04
@hexa:lossy.networkhexapublished18:44:07
@hexa:lossy.networkhexajust a lot of words around two links18:46:03
@hexa:lossy.networkhexafedi isn't happy 😄 23:47:25
27 Feb 2025
@sigmasquadron:matrix.orgSigmaSquadron
In reply to @hexa:lossy.network
frankly, I'm still on uMatrix and uBlock origin
isn't uMatrix EOL?
01:42:40
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/385672\ 23:48:25
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa* https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/38567223:48:28
28 Feb 2025
@hexa:lossy.networkhexahttps://github.com/mozilla/bedrock/commit/d459addab846d8144b61939b7f4310eb80c5470e#diff-756d5712016e5710874c0cbff395d8541dade83f84cfb8dd77644f5bb3c8071001:38:13
@hexa:lossy.networkhexathis surely looks super bad01:38:16
@hexa:lossy.networkhexaexpiry just a few days before firefox 13801:38:55
@hexa:lossy.networkhexalooks like thunderbird-bin and thunderbird-latest-unwrapped are not well maintained 😕 02:49:37
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa133.0 is old enough to lack mach fixes for python 3.12.8/902:52:15
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily it looks like this is just because the strings aren't used in the if switch('firefox-tou') else branch? 03:29:56
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily * it looks like this is just because the strings aren't used in the if switch('firefox-tou') branch? 03:30:01
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyhmm, but they do seem to be rather comprehensively removing statements that they don't sell data :)03:30:32
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyhttps://github.com/mozilla/bedrock/issues/16016 too bad the gdocs are login-walled03:30:55
@hexa:lossy.networkhexayeah, I tried that gdocs yesterday 😄 03:31:08
@hexa:lossy.networkhexawhat the community now needs is a proper rationale03:31:33
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilymy guess is still just "the lawyers won the argument about tightening up the wording and covering their ass", but it'll be interesting to see03:43:24
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyseems like Mozilla are flailing around even more lately03:44:00
@hexa:lossy.networkhexaso two things worry me currently03:44:11
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa
  1. they bought an advertisement company (https://www.anonymco.com/)
03:44:34
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa
  1. funding is likely an issue, given the google monopoly lawsuit
03:45:04
@hexa:lossy.networkhexaand mozilla has been in the browser market for 20 years03:47:42
@hexa:lossy.networkhexaso its funny that so much is happening at once 😄 03:47:55
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa also … leadership changes again 03:48:07
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI kinda figured they don't see Firefox as that much of a potential revenue source given its ~0 market share. hence all the flailing sround03:48:09
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilybut I guess it's enough of one for Google historically03:48:18

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