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30 Oct 2024
@hexa:lossy.networkhexasettings > export for mobile20:29:23
@hexa:lossy.networkhexait is there on 128.4.020:29:25
@hexa:lossy.networkhexahttps://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/35249323:27:33
@hexa:lossy.networkhexaapparently this is happening23:27:37
31 Oct 2024
@vcunat:matrix.orgvcunatI wonder if we should do it for 24.11 already.06:34:51
@vcunat:matrix.orgvcunatI see no reason not to, though I haven't even tried 129+ yet.06:35:23
@aloisw:kde.org@aloisw:kde.orgIs this not relevant any more? https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/346493#issuecomment-240456659808:53:01
@vcunat:matrix.orgvcunatOh, I assumed that would be gone by now, but they're still showing that warning.09:01:07
@aloisw:kde.org@aloisw:kde.orgIt's a bit funny that they warn for release and daily, but not beta.09:22:02
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1 Nov 2024
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilylong shot, but if anyone knows anything about the WASI stuff in Firefox… https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/35272401:43:26
@hexa:lossy.networkhexait was painful to set up01:44:57
@hexa:lossy.networkhexathat's what I remember01:45:00
@hexa:lossy.networkhexait was the reason we created a firefox maintainers room in the first place01:45:22
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI'm pretty sure we could solve it by just applying the Firefox workaround patch they did originally, but that would leave the mystery of why it was reverted as having been fixed upstream, and why the commit that clearly fixes it doesn't01:54:27
8 Nov 2024
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10 Nov 2024
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12 Nov 2024
@jopejoe1:matrix.orgjopejoe1 (4094@39c3)Planing to rebase and merge https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/289404 tomorrow07:20:29
@nbp:mozilla.orgnbp

emily: I can forward questions if needed.

The whole concept is kind of fun. Some components are compiled as WebAssembly before being compiled to assembly and embedded in the binary. There is no WebAssembly interpreted/jitted at the end, but all the sand-boxing of the execution remains around the embedded component. This is a security feature to isolate components of Firefox.

10:51:40
@nbp:mozilla.orgnbpunless you are referring to WASI as a target, in which case I am not aware, but I can still forward questions.10:53:53
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily
In reply to @nbp:mozilla.org

emily: I can forward questions if needed.

The whole concept is kind of fun. Some components are compiled as WebAssembly before being compiled to assembly and embedded in the binary. There is no WebAssembly interpreted/jitted at the end, but all the sand-boxing of the execution remains around the embedded component. This is a security feature to isolate components of Firefox.

so here's my understanding of the situation:

  • https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1905251 was opened for an LLVM 19-related regression in the WASI build
  • https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/autoland/rev/23a9f6555c7c was merged as a workaround
  • it was backed out in https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/b8a794387245 because it was fixed upstream
  • from my digging, it seems pretty clear that the upstream fix was https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/pull/97451
  • but we seem to get the same error even in the latest LLVM 19 released months after that fix
  • re-applying the previous Firefox workaround fixes it
13:49:39
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilywhich makes me wonder "are we absolutely sure it was tested that the fix actually fixed it?"13:49:51
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilybut – Nixpkgs compilers are weird. it's also possible we're messing it up somehow and it's our fault13:50:02
@nbp:mozilla.orgnbphave the changes stick in LLVM, or did they got backed out of LLVM?13:56:14
@hexa:lossy.networkhexaI can see the changes are still applied in 19.1.314:07:51
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI didn't see any indication of revert14:12:07
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilythe Mozilla bug does not directly link the LLVM change, but the circumstances, error message, and workaround are an exact match14:12:23
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyand it seems like it should directly fix the build error I saw14:12:33
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyso I'm wondering if upstream LLVM fix is broken and Mozilla didn't fully test it (understandable since they haven't yet upgraded their actual builders to LLVM 19 yet AFAIK), or if somehow we are breaking things with our weirdness14:12:57

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