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| 10 Jul 2024 |
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| hexa | https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/privacy-preserving-attribution?as=u&utm_source=inproduct | 22:15:02 |
| 11 Jul 2024 |
 nbp | The gist:
Websites that show you ads can ask Firefox to remember these ads. The website can ask Firefox to generate a report. Firefox creates a report, encrypts the report and anonymously submits it to an “aggregation service”. The website periodically receives a summary of the combined reports. | 10:05:29 |
| hexa | ok | 10:06:23 |
| hexa | * ok, so mozilla is doing the anonymization | 10:06:34 |
 vcunat | Mostly your local browser already, right? | 10:06:51 |
| hexa | yeah, but I mostly think about the disconnect between my browsing session and the tracking data | 10:07:26 |
| nbp | I am not sure who is supposed to run the aggregation service, but data are supposed to be limited in spectrum to what Firefox is willing sending. | 10:08:31 |
| nbp | I guess the aggregation service is to be run by a trusted person too. | 10:09:11 |
| nbp | I met a few people a year ago which were already designing this last year, and people who have been on the tech-side of Mozilla / Firefox. So, not having much more information I would think I can trust them. | 10:12:58 |
| nbp | * I met a few people a year ago which were already designing this, and people who have been on the tech-side of Mozilla / Firefox. So, not having much more information I would think I can trust them. | 10:13:10 |
| nbp | * I met a few people a year ago which were already designing this, and people who have been on the tech-side of Mozilla / Firefox for a decade. So, not having much more information I would think I can trust them. | 10:13:27 |
| hexa | That's fair | 10:13:53 |
| vcunat | More that what Chrome's doing with ads, for sure. | 10:13:57 |
| nbp | http://whatbeatsrock.com <-- Warning! Time wasting website | 10:37:22 |
| hexa | noouuuu | 10:50:24 |
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| 13 Jul 2024 |
| hexa | https://blog.thunderbird.net/2024/07/welcome-to-thunderbird-128-nebula/ | 01:32:53 |
| vcunat | https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/326873 | 17:47:27 |
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| hexa | 🙃 | 11:55:27 |
| hexa | https://github.com/mozilla/explainers/tree/main/ppa-experiment | 12:02:02 |
| hexa |
Mozilla is working with Meta and other actors on defining an in-browser attribution API. The purpose of this API is to provide a privacy-first design for advertising companies to be able to measure how advertising drives conversions. That is, answering the question of whether advertising effectively achieves its goals, such as increased sales.
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| nbp |
Our DAP deployment is jointly run by Mozilla and ISRG. Privacy is lost if the two organizations collude to reveal individual values. We safeguard against this in several ways: trust in both organizations, joint agreements, and operational practices.
| 12:55:45 |
| nbp | Apparently the browser is partially in charge of limiting abuses, but the third party services should not be required … if users could forward on behalf of other users. For the amount of data, doing something like the TOR network sounds valuable and prevent the aggregation from trusted services. | 12:58:28 |
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