| 30 Apr 2026 |
 vcunat | Even Hydra's aarch64-linux builder commonly takes half a day or a full day. | 12:00:10 |
| vcunat | * Even Hydra's aarch64-linux builder commonly takes half a day or a full ~24h. | 12:00:15 |
 hexa | but I don't think we're doing PGO yet | 12:00:17 |
| hexa | chromium tends to need lots of compute for the whole time it builds | 12:01:00 |
| vcunat | It was kind-of nice that Chrom* and Firefox kept aligned at almost-same major version numbers. For a few years was it? | 12:01:49 |
| hexa | this should have direct implications for onboarding of new browsers into nixpkgs | 12:01:57 |
| hexa | well, first chromium raced, then firefox raced | 12:02:17 |
| hexa | 
Download | 12:03:20 |
| hexa | what's wrong with build time on hydra btw | 12:03:25 |
| hexa | feels like it queues the build without noticing it has it cached and then finishes immediately | 12:03:57 |
| vcunat | You need to look at the unwrapped build? | 12:05:22 |
| vcunat | Except that... those do not have a separate job on Hydra. (for chromium*) | 12:06:57 |
| vcunat | But you can look individually, e.g. at https://hydra.nixos.org/build/327781061#tabs-buildsteps | 12:07:28 |
| vcunat | (if you're lucky and it wasn't cached from a different job) | 12:08:08 |
| vcunat | * (if you're lucky and that big step wasn't cached from a different job) | 12:08:16 |
 whispers [& it/fae] | tbh they've been doing near-weekly releases at this point anyway… i have no idea how they keep up. it's very impressive | 12:09:18 |
| hexa | talked to emily lange just yesterday and my impression was that major bringups are quite a bit more work than the regular security releases | 12:09:57 |
| whispers [& it/fae] | ah interesting | 12:10:08 |
| hexa | I mean, that 's simplar to firefox patch releases | 12:10:10 |
| hexa | Redacted or Malformed Event | 12:10:15 |
| hexa | but major firefox releases only rarely cause issues | 12:10:29 |
 Emma [it/its] | oh god, jesus christ | 12:10:44 |
| vcunat | "demands of modern web". A weird way to justify that, or maybe I don't have any idea what modern web is about. | 12:13:19 |
| vcunat | Generally with SW I'd say that specific people want updates early (perhaps just a specific new feature) but vast majority of people want less frequent major upgrades than they get. | 12:15:47 |
| hexa | you don't? it's the slopfest. | 12:16:30 |
| Emma [it/its] | i see this release cadence increase as a negative for the web tbh | 12:17:16 |
| hexa | https://firefoxci-websocktunnel.services.mozilla.com/us-west1-a.6255730980504403819.60099/log/LEPLWp_ORUCRBAk1t_cvrg | 13:00:21 |
| hexa | symbol scraping test run | 13:00:24 |
| 1 May 2026 |
|  llakala set a profile picture. | 17:12:29 |
 colemickens | Can I get an assist/consult here: https://github.com/nix-community/flake-firefox-nightly/pull/62
the fix seems okay-ish but I'm surprised that this wasn't noticed earlier.
I would expect to see something that updates where the devedition version is fetched, but that's not in the PR.
Surely it's not the case that every valid devedition build tag is also a valid beta tag so.... ??? | 17:41:37 |
