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A room about a number of weird animals (also known as Mozilla products): Firefox, Thunderbird, Spidermonkey, NSS, cacert. Also a little bit of fun times, small amounts of extreme, when building weird animals. But for bugs please file GitHub issues. | Release Schedule: https://whattrainisitnow.com | Crash-Stats: https://crash-stats.mozilla.org/search/?distribution_id=%3Dnixos&product=Firefox&product=Thunderbird51 Servers

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18 Nov 2024
@nbp:mozilla.orgnbpThis might be outdated info, and deformed over time, but I recall hearing something along these lines in 2012.11:01:55
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI sympathize with "it would be nice if they just made a browser" but also it's not clear to me that they have any viable path to sustainable finances if Google ever stops caring so I guess they're doomed to flail for any opportunity.11:03:00
@k900:0upti.meK900 ⚡️ The whole for-profit owned by a non-profit setup makes no sense to me 11:03:05
@k900:0upti.meK900 ⚡️It's so US brained 11:03:17
@vcunat:matrix.orgvcunatYou mean it should be the other way around?11:04:12
@k900:0upti.meK900 ⚡️I mean it shouldn't exist, I think 11:08:12
@nbp:mozilla.orgnbpfor what is worth, lawyers were not happy about creating it in the first place, as this is an unusual setup. However, a foundation can own some properties, for example a Zoo can own the land on which it is based. And this is roughly how a foundation can own a corporation. On the other hand, the fact that the foundation cannot withdraw as much money from the corporation as it desire is completely broken …11:10:57
@nbp:mozilla.orgnbp * for what is worth, lawyers were not happy about creating it in the first place, as this is was an unusual setup.
However, a foundation can own some properties, for example a Zoo can own the land on which it is based. And this is roughly how a foundation can own a corporation.
On the other hand, the fact that the foundation cannot withdraw as much money from the corporation as it desire is completely broken …
11:11:14
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilywhat was the motivation to create the corporation?11:23:58
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyto be able to get money from Google, or?11:24:02
@nbp:mozilla.orgnbpExactly.11:24:41
@nbp:mozilla.orgnbpGoogle were good guys way before they decided to work for the US military.11:26:08
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyGoogle guys brainstorming in an office like what if we bait them into a crazy corporate structure where the Foundation can't access the money 😂11:28:51
@gabriel:mozilla.orggabriel changed their display name from gabriel|pto to gabriel.13:34:36
@hexa:lossy.networkhexanix builds tend to freeze my firefox17:29:06
@hexa:lossy.networkhexaaudio continues playing for a while, but the GUI is unresponsive and does not update anymore until I cancel the build17:29:47
@hexa:lossy.networkhexanow that build is fully remote and only streams the log through nom17:30:11
@hexa:lossy.networkhexawhen that happens firefox maxes out a core17:30:23
@hexa:lossy.networkhexaand a while into the build the behavior usually settles17:30:43

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