| 21 Oct 2024 |
 Anton | I'm getting a lot of warning: Nix search path entry '/nix/var/nix/profiles/per-user/root/channels' does not exist, ignoring warnings, what could be causing them? I am using NixOS | 23:14:13 |
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| 22 Oct 2024 |
 bumperboat | whats in your NIX_PATH ? do you have nix.channel.enable = true ? | 00:00:32 |
 Stephen D | I've having a great deal of trouble getting gnome keyring running with i3 on nixos | 00:11:00 |
| Stephen D | It seems like this is something roughly 100% of people would want | 00:12:45 |
| Stephen D | am I stupid or just confused | 00:12:51 |
| Stephen D | ok I rebooted and I guess things are working now | 00:19:27 |
 Jaafar | In reply to @stephen:crabsin.space
ok I rebooted and I guess things are working now That's nice and all, but... i3? Why not Sway? | 00:30:36 |
| Stephen D | cause wayland sucks lol | 00:31:34 |
 magic_rb | In reply to @stephen:crabsin.space
It seems like this is something roughly 100% of people would want No not a 100% and also, wayland doesn't suck. X11 happens to work because its been the display server for 20+ years so everything bent over backwards to accommodate it | 00:34:56 |
| magic_rb | The thing with it, is that if you compare what wayland is aiming to be with what apple's display server is currently, then youll find a lot of similarities. And apple's display server is damn good. Meanwhile X11 is barely able to handle multihead and even that it does poorly | 00:36:21 |
| magic_rb | (I use X11 still btw) | 00:36:36 |
| Stephen D | I've used wayland in the past | 00:39:58 |
| Stephen D | My workflow include esoteric things like taking screenhsots, so I've switched back to X11 | 00:40:16 |
| Stephen D | You say programs bend over backwards for X11 like it's a bad thing. But that just strengthens the case for X11, imo | 00:40:42 |
| Stephen D | I'm not writing applications that work with wayland or X11, so I don't care about how ugly the API may or may not be | 00:41:01 |
| Stephen D | I just want my computer to work when I turn it on | 00:41:10 |
| magic_rb | In reply to @stephen:crabsin.space
I'm not writing applications that work with wayland or X11, so I don't care about how ugly the API may or may not be Its not about the API even, i dont care either, but id personally like to be able to have differing refresh rates on screens. Or I'd like for a window on a dGPU connected screen to render on the dGPU and not have to be rendered on the iGPU and then copied over. Or perhaps I would eventually have it so that not any piece of executable code which gains access to x11 can read every input event, inject any event and capture my screen, portals are nice. | 00:44:45 |
| Stephen D | I just want to take screenshots | 00:45:14 |
| magic_rb | Sure, but "i want to take screenshots" does not mean "wayland sucks" wayland is still WIP and has gotten a lot better recently, to the degree that 2 friends of mine who arent die hard linux people use wayland (KDE6) with 0 issues | 00:46:24 |
| Stephen D | Wayland is WIP and that is why I don't want to use it | 00:46:57 |
| Stephen D | I just want my computer to work when I turn it on | 00:47:03 |
| magic_rb | And the reason im arguing this case is because i appreciate the effort put in by the people working on wayland | 00:47:21 |
| Stephen D | yes | 00:47:33 |
| Stephen D | they have put in a lot of effort | 00:47:37 |
| Stephen D | One day maybe I will use it | 00:47:40 |
| Stephen D | But today it is not ready for me | 00:47:46 |
| magic_rb | In reply to @stephen:crabsin.space
cause wayland sucks lol Sure, again, valid point, just dont say ^ next time someone asks you why not wayland | 00:48:22 |
| magic_rb | Say "i dont feel its ready yet, its on my radar though" instead | 00:48:49 |
| Stephen D | fair | 00:50:00 |
