| 23 May 2021 |
 samueldr | you have to do heavy modifications to use PCIe | 17:40:58 |
 vika (she/her) 🏳️⚧️ | You can always use a soldering iron | 17:41:03 |
 Las | https://pipci.jeffgeerling.com/ | 17:41:00 |
| samueldr | CM4 is not a product in itself | 17:41:03 |
| vika (she/her) 🏳️⚧️ | people've done that | 17:41:08 |
| samueldr | vika (she/her) 🏳️⚧️: I can't, and many people can't | 17:41:27 |
| Las | In reply to @samueldr:matrix.org
no, USB is not valid :) especially not given how self-powering from USB is a recipe for disaster wdym? | 17:41:30 |
| samueldr | if it's not out of the box, it's not a solution, sadly | 17:41:30 |
| Las | I've been using an SSD from USB for some time now and it works fine | 17:41:37 |
| samueldr | also, few CM4 boards have a nice layout | 17:41:45 |
| Las | Sure, IOPS isn't great but it's still way better than an HDD | 17:41:49 |
| samueldr | most are meant as a development platform | 17:41:54 |
 cepheus | i mean part of the issue is that the SoC they're using has a pretty anaemic number of PCIe lanes, no | 17:42:00 |
| vika (she/her) 🏳️⚧️ | In reply to @Las:matrix.org
wdym? Backpowering from a non-compliant USB hub that doesn't use diodes on +5V bypasses voltage protection and can fry a Raspberry Pi | 17:42:17 |
| vika (she/her) 🏳️⚧️ | In reply to @Las:matrix.org
wdym? * Backpowering from a non-compliant USB hub that doesn't use diodes on +5V to prevent power from leaking bypasses voltage protection and can fry a Raspberry Pi | 17:42:37 |
| vika (she/her) 🏳️⚧️ | * Backpowering from a non-compliant powered USB hub that doesn't use diodes on +5V to prevent power from leaking bypasses voltage protection and can fry a Raspberry Pi | 17:42:42 |
| Las | I'm not using a Raspberry Pi, I thought his statement was wrt. USB in general | 17:42:43 |
| Las | I don't understand why anyone would buy an RPi honestly | 17:42:53 |
| samueldr | vika (she/her) 🏳️⚧️: by "self-powering" I mean USB drives without an external power source | 17:43:40 |
| Las | USB drives? | 17:43:52 |
| samueldr | hard drives, SSDs, thumb drives | 17:44:07 |
| Las | I just bought a SATA 3 <-> USB 3 adapter from Sabrent | 17:44:13 |
| samueldr | * hard diss, SSDs, thumb drives | 17:44:15 |
| samueldr | * hard disks, SSDs, thumb drives | 17:44:19 |
| vika (she/her) 🏳️⚧️ | In reply to @Las:matrix.org
I don't understand why anyone would buy an RPi honestly it's dirt cheap, doesn't take much space, doesn't require too much active cooling (just an optional fan if you want to overclock it) and doesn't use too much power | 17:44:26 |
| vika (she/her) 🏳️⚧️ | perfect platform for a small home server or a homelab if you've got several of them | 17:44:45 |
 plabadens | the RPi ecosystem is pretty good, especially for education | 17:44:47 |
| Las | I'm using an ODROID N2 personally | 17:44:48 |
| Las | It was 80 USD IIRC | 17:44:56 |
| samueldr | in my experience it's, in the best case, a matter of hour (singular) until the pi just freezes because it stopped sending power to the USB ports long enough that the drive has disconnected | 17:44:58 |
