| 3 Jun 2025 |
 emily | right | 14:14:22 |
 magic_rb | There are some coax ports but i doubt i can just pull those out | 14:14:24 |
| emily | well, in that case you need to be able to deal with the fact that the transceiver doesn't attach while you're running it of course, but I imagine that won't be an issue in that context | 14:14:53 |
| emily | my guess is that AOC is easier/cheaper for what you want? | 14:15:02 |
| emily | I'm sort of planning to pull single mode fibre through the disused daisy-chain telephone wiring in this place so I can have fibre drops in every room, but that's wholly irrational of me, it just sounds like fun. | 14:15:36 |
| magic_rb | Yeah ill be doong this in september so ill actually check id i can pull the coax out and install fibre instead | 14:16:54 |
| magic_rb | There seems to be also some telephone lines somewhere, there is a telephone patch panel in the router closet | 14:17:13 |
| magic_rb | With 5 wires so it must go somewhere | 14:17:20 |
| emily | looks like I can get a 25 m AOC for £26.59 on Amazon; the equivalent run of duplex OS2 fibre on FS.com is $16 and you can get a pair of transceivers on AliExpress for like $17 | 14:18:10 |
| emily | so basically the same cost | 14:18:18 |
| emily | I'm guessing you can get cheaper AOCs on AliExpress too though | 14:18:33 |
| emily | (also MMF might come out cheaper for the latter but it seems like it's kind of stupid to do that if you're bothering to run fibre in the first place from what I've read…) | 14:19:39 |
| emily | huh the AlIExpress AOCs are actually more expensive than the Amazon ones! | 14:20:05 |
| emily | I do not understand anything. networking is a mystery to me. | 14:20:15 |
| magic_rb | Same! | 14:20:55 |
| emily | anyway my feeling is that if you can just plug an AOC into both ends then it is very convenient and foolproof. | 14:21:36 |
| emily | but if you want a project than yeah you can try and pull OS2 through the walls or whatever. | 14:21:47 |
| magic_rb | Not OM2? | 14:22:28 |
| magic_rb | I was eyeing OM3 for "headroom" | 14:22:36 |
| emily | my conclusion from what I've read is ^ | 14:22:44 |
| emily | OS2 can handle anything. | 14:22:48 |
| emily | like it will scale up to a terabit or whatever. | 14:22:52 |
| emily | and the fibre is cheaper. | 14:22:54 |
| emily | the only downside is that the transceivers are more expensive. | 14:22:59 |
| magic_rb | Ah so os2 is single mode, om2 is multimode | 14:23:44 |
| emily | but from my casual arithmetic it seemed like the price difference wasn't much at all for the futureproofing and if you're going to the fuss of pulling fibre through then it seems pointless to do it with MMF. | 14:23:45 |
| magic_rb | Well i wont be living there in 3 years probanly :P | 14:24:22 |
| emily | yeah in which case it seems like you could just run an AOC and be done with it :P | 14:24:51 |
| magic_rb | But thats doesnt sound as fun :P | 14:25:04 |
| emily | but also presumably you will take the transceivers etc. when you move | 14:25:05 |
