| 3 Jun 2025 |
 emily | I think calling it AON when you're talking about wiring up your home is weird? | 14:07:26 |
| emily | you could consider your home an optical distribution network but I think you generally, like, wouldn't. | 14:07:36 |
| emily | that's just a normal Ethernet network. | 14:07:51 |
 magic_rb | But like, isnt aon a normal ethernet network mostly | 14:08:47 |
| magic_rb | Like aon is just media converters no | 14:08:53 |
| emily | if you want to wire up your place with fibre you'll want a switch that takes SFP+ modules and fibre transceivers. though AOCs or just DACs are also an option, depending on how big your place is and what your options are in terms of running stuff around the place? | 14:08:53 |
| magic_rb | What AOC and whats DAC | 14:09:19 |
| emily | that's my understanding, yeah, but I think AON is specifically the term for "when you just do normal fibre-optic Ethernet stuff for fibre-to-the-X" | 14:09:21 |
| emily | so using the term for a network that spans a few metres feels weird | 14:09:42 |
| emily | because it's not like you'd ever pick PON for the usecase. | 14:09:54 |
| emily | or are going to be digging up roads to lay fibre. | 14:10:06 |
| magic_rb | No im running it from the hallway to my room and living room | 14:10:21 |
| emily | right :P | 14:10:33 |
| magic_rb | So just two fiber runs, not more than 30 meters | 14:10:35 |
| emily | have you considered just buying DACs/AOCs? | 14:10:50 |
| emily | passive DACs go up to ~7 m, active to ~15 m, AOC like 100 m or something. | 14:11:08 |
| emily | they come with the transceivers on both ends, it's plug and play. | 14:11:14 |
| emily | if you're only running a couple of cables and you're not limited by tiny conduits in the walls or whatever it's probably the simplest thing. | 14:11:30 |
| magic_rb | Ooh i have but that doesnt sound as fun | 14:11:35 |
| emily | and the lowest power. | 14:11:42 |
| magic_rb | Hm, is there a reason to pick what im thinking over AOC? | 14:12:09 |
| magic_rb | (12m isnt enough) | 14:12:17 |
| emily | again I knew nothing about this a month or two ago, but: | 14:12:29 |
| emily | AOCs are limited to the transceivers you get on each end, if you wanted to upgrade beyond 10 Gbit/s then you'd need to buy new ones. if you lay single mode fibre instead you can run terabit over the run years down the line | 14:12:57 |
| emily | but the cost of fibre + transceivers would probably exceed the AOC in the immediate term I think (not sure, might depend on what crap you can get cheap off AliExpress) | 14:13:17 |
| magic_rb | Aha, well i dont own the new place so i probably wont be there in 10 years | 14:13:42 |
| emily | also transceivers are bulkier than fibre so if you were feeding the cables through tiny wall spaces or whatever then I can imagine AOCs being less convenient? | 14:13:44 |
| magic_rb | Im not feeding | 14:13:54 |
| magic_rb | Ill have to run it along the walls in small conduits or smth | 14:14:04 |
| magic_rb | There is no way to feed anything im pretty sure | 14:14:12 |
