| 29 Nov 2022 |
 @NobbZ:matrix.org | Looking at that list, I would say you called your keyboard "options" | 17:23:36 |
| @NobbZ:matrix.org | Please check the status of kmonad-options.service (it is running) And if you have currently changes that are not yet active, please restart the service and tell us if then the changes get applied. | 17:25:27 |
| @NobbZ:matrix.org | (I will actually start playing with KMonad on my systems soonish, as it might solve some problems I currently have even with my Moonlander, as there are simply things that are not perfect still, and it behaves differently between Mac and Linux) | 17:26:46 |
 @ask-yourself:matrix.org | In reply to @NobbZ:matrix.org
(I will actually start playing with KMonad on my systems soonish, as it might solve some problems I currently have even with my Moonlander, as there are simply things that are not perfect still, and it behaves differently between Mac and Linux) This is good to hear. | 17:27:30 |
| @ask-yourself:matrix.org | In reply to @NobbZ:matrix.org
Please check the status of kmonad-options.service (it is running) And if you have currently changes that are not yet active, please restart the service and tell us if then the changes get applied. Yes, if I make some changes and they don't take effect, restarting that service makes them take effect. | 17:30:03 |
| @ask-yourself:matrix.org | Interesting. | 17:30:11 |
| @ask-yourself:matrix.org | I still think there is something weird about the behaviour I'm getting, it seems like something is wrong. But this does give me a good way to work on it w/o having to restart constantly. | 17:33:00 |
| @NobbZ:matrix.org | So either the nixos activation or colmena do something weird. Usually changed services should be restarted. Therefore I'd like to know if it would work reliably using nixos-rebuild switch or test | 17:55:43 |
| @ask-yourself:matrix.org | Yeah, if this keeps being a problem I'm gonna find a way to add a normal build to my config for debugging purposes. | 17:56:46 |
| @ask-yourself:matrix.org | I'd be curisou to get to the bottom of this. | 17:56:58 |
| @ask-yourself:matrix.org | * I'd be curious to get to the bottom of this. | 17:57:08 |
| @NobbZ:matrix.org | Okay, colmena built from master has a --nix-option, so I am building right now. | 18:08:19 |
| @ask-yourself:matrix.org | Did it reveal anything interesting or nah? | 19:14:49 |
| @NobbZ:matrix.org | Nope. From there everything looks as I would expect it | 19:15:47 |
| @ask-yourself:matrix.org | Hm, ok. If you ever find out in the course of your own exploration of KMonad feel free to tag me. I'd be curious. | 19:27:17 |
|  Yuu Yin changed their display name from yuu to yuu✨✨. | 23:03:49 |
 raitobezarius | do colmena allow to copy the nix exprs on the target so I can still run local deployment there? | 23:14:05 |
| raitobezarius | (some sort of "local deployments" by default setup) | 23:14:13 |
| 1 Dec 2022 |
| @ask-yourself:matrix.org | How can I apply all my systems at once if I have to sudo colmena apply-local for local system and colmena apply --on x for remote systems? If I just run colmena apply then the local system will fail cause no sudo. I could tag the nodes and build everything but the local system, but that seems inferior to building all at once. Anybody know how to resolve this? | 00:59:54 |
 Linux Hackerman | I deploy my laptop via SSH too | 01:00:21 |
| @ask-yourself:matrix.org | Yeahhh.. I really want to know how to do it all in one step. Would make life easier. | 01:39:01 |
| Linux Hackerman | Yeah I do it all in one step | 08:20:50 |
| Linux Hackerman | By deploying my laptop via SH | 08:20:55 |
| Linux Hackerman | * By deploying my laptop via SSH | 08:21:06 |
| Linux Hackerman | So `colmena apply` will build all the configs and deploy them via SSH, even to the laptop it's running on | 08:21:37 |
| Linux Hackerman | (And it SSHes in as root) | 08:22:33 |
 Zhaofeng Li | In reply to @raitobezarius:matrix.org
do colmena allow to copy the nix exprs on the target so I can still run local deployment there? Copying expressions themselves can be a bit tricky to do cleanly. As an alternative, Colmena can deploy directly from a remote Flake URI like github:.
(This is tracked in https://github.com/zhaofengli/colmena/issues/33)
| 08:47:42 |
| Zhaofeng Li | In reply to @ask-yourself:matrix.org
How can I apply all my systems at once if I have to sudo colmena apply-local for local system and colmena apply --on x for remote systems? If I just run colmena apply then the local system will fail cause no sudo. I could tag the nodes and build everything but the local system, but that seems inferior to building all at once. Anybody know how to resolve this? Currently apply and apply-local are separate because apply-local requires either being launched as root or running sudo (with interactive authentication) during activation. The interactive sudo password prompt doesn't play well with the parallel deployment process. | 08:49:51 |
| @ask-yourself:matrix.org | Hmm, ok. I'm not sure I follow. I get the part about apply and apply-local needing to be separate. But are you also saying that if I build remotely that can overcome this? I don't think I will build remotely but I'd like to understand what you meant with remote FLake URI. | 08:52:32 |
| @NobbZ:matrix.org | They say, they treat the local machine as a remote one, and have set up everything to connect from local user to local root via SSH, making it transparent for colmena.
This is a common approach for all of these tools | 08:55:44 |
