| 8 Aug 2023 |
 Winter (she/her) | no logs in my journal either, so not really sure what's going on... | 02:45:53 |
| Winter (she/her) | :/ i can reproduce this pretty reliably, basically every deployment that i don't purge the master sockets before, it fails. | 03:29:35 |
 Zhaofeng Li | I've occasionally encountered master sockets getting stuck as well, but it always cleared itself up | 04:35:28 |
| Zhaofeng Li | Could you confirm that ssh-ing to the host with the control socket also fails to work in this state? | 04:35:38 |
| Zhaofeng Li | There is ServerAliveInterval which may help with stale sockets as well | 04:36:09 |
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| 12 Aug 2023 |
| Winter (she/her) | In reply to @zhaofeng:zhaofeng.li
I've occasionally encountered master sockets getting stuck as well, but it always cleared itself up issue is i can reproduce it consistently, and it only happens when using it via Colmena :/ | 20:19:16 |
| Winter (she/her) | In reply to @zhaofeng:zhaofeng.li
Could you confirm that ssh-ing to the host with the control socket also fails to work in this state? sure, i can try | 20:19:38 |
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 void | hey Zhaofeng Li any plans for transactional switches like rewinds in the of no confirmation? | 21:37:17 |
| void | just switched on nftable and lost a box. | 21:37:34 |
| void | * just switched on nftables and lost a box. | 21:37:41 |
| void | * just switched on nftables and lost a box. ;( nothing serious but may be helpful for all. | 21:37:57 |
 Wanja Hentze | yeah, a dead man's switch type feature has been requested a bunch | 21:47:30 |
| Wanja Hentze | "magic rollback" | 21:47:36 |
| Wanja Hentze | I'd like it too | 21:47:45 |
| void | I think implementing transactional switching for n boxes would be a nice feature. | 21:50:19 |
| void | maybe the script can be implemented in nix too. | 21:50:42 |
| Wanja Hentze | in my professional opinion distributed transactions don't really work | 21:56:53 |
| Wanja Hentze | but I'm happy to be proven wrong | 21:57:05 |
| Wanja Hentze | you can pull them off with a consensus algorithm but I don't want my deployments to be a CP (in terms of CAP) | 21:58:19 |
| Wanja Hentze | * you can pull them off with a consensus algorithm but I don't want my deployments to be a CP system (in terms of CAP) | 21:58:38 |
 raitobezarius | I don't think the feature should be implemented in the deployment system | 22:31:03 |
| raitobezarius | Magic rollback should be part of NixOS to a certain extent | 22:31:12 |
| raitobezarius | In reply to @whentze:matrix.org
in my professional opinion distributed transactions don't really work well if you care about C or A… | 22:32:09 |
| raitobezarius | hot take: distributed tx works if you prove that you cannot have P in your network to a certain extent | 22:32:39 |
| raitobezarius | checkmate CAP theorem | 22:32:49 |
