| 29 Nov 2022 |
 @ask-yourself:matrix.org | Interesting. | 17:30:11 |
| @ask-yourself:matrix.org | I still think there is something weird about the behaviour I'm getting, it seems like something is wrong. But this does give me a good way to work on it w/o having to restart constantly. | 17:33:00 |
 @NobbZ:matrix.org | So either the nixos activation or colmena do something weird. Usually changed services should be restarted. Therefore I'd like to know if it would work reliably using nixos-rebuild switch or test | 17:55:43 |
| @ask-yourself:matrix.org | Yeah, if this keeps being a problem I'm gonna find a way to add a normal build to my config for debugging purposes. | 17:56:46 |
| @ask-yourself:matrix.org | I'd be curisou to get to the bottom of this. | 17:56:58 |
| @ask-yourself:matrix.org | * I'd be curious to get to the bottom of this. | 17:57:08 |
| @NobbZ:matrix.org | Okay, colmena built from master has a --nix-option, so I am building right now. | 18:08:19 |
| @ask-yourself:matrix.org | Did it reveal anything interesting or nah? | 19:14:49 |
| @NobbZ:matrix.org | Nope. From there everything looks as I would expect it | 19:15:47 |
| @ask-yourself:matrix.org | Hm, ok. If you ever find out in the course of your own exploration of KMonad feel free to tag me. I'd be curious. | 19:27:17 |
|  Yuu Yin changed their display name from yuu to yuu✨✨. | 23:03:49 |
 raitobezarius | do colmena allow to copy the nix exprs on the target so I can still run local deployment there? | 23:14:05 |
| raitobezarius | (some sort of "local deployments" by default setup) | 23:14:13 |
| 1 Dec 2022 |
| @ask-yourself:matrix.org | How can I apply all my systems at once if I have to sudo colmena apply-local for local system and colmena apply --on x for remote systems? If I just run colmena apply then the local system will fail cause no sudo. I could tag the nodes and build everything but the local system, but that seems inferior to building all at once. Anybody know how to resolve this? | 00:59:54 |
 Linux Hackerman | I deploy my laptop via SSH too | 01:00:21 |
| @ask-yourself:matrix.org | Yeahhh.. I really want to know how to do it all in one step. Would make life easier. | 01:39:01 |
| Linux Hackerman | Yeah I do it all in one step | 08:20:50 |
| Linux Hackerman | By deploying my laptop via SH | 08:20:55 |
| Linux Hackerman | * By deploying my laptop via SSH | 08:21:06 |
| Linux Hackerman | So `colmena apply` will build all the configs and deploy them via SSH, even to the laptop it's running on | 08:21:37 |
| Linux Hackerman | (And it SSHes in as root) | 08:22:33 |
 Zhaofeng Li | In reply to @raitobezarius:matrix.org
do colmena allow to copy the nix exprs on the target so I can still run local deployment there? Copying expressions themselves can be a bit tricky to do cleanly. As an alternative, Colmena can deploy directly from a remote Flake URI like github:.
(This is tracked in https://github.com/zhaofengli/colmena/issues/33)
| 08:47:42 |
| Zhaofeng Li | In reply to @ask-yourself:matrix.org
How can I apply all my systems at once if I have to sudo colmena apply-local for local system and colmena apply --on x for remote systems? If I just run colmena apply then the local system will fail cause no sudo. I could tag the nodes and build everything but the local system, but that seems inferior to building all at once. Anybody know how to resolve this? Currently apply and apply-local are separate because apply-local requires either being launched as root or running sudo (with interactive authentication) during activation. The interactive sudo password prompt doesn't play well with the parallel deployment process. | 08:49:51 |
| @ask-yourself:matrix.org | Hmm, ok. I'm not sure I follow. I get the part about apply and apply-local needing to be separate. But are you also saying that if I build remotely that can overcome this? I don't think I will build remotely but I'd like to understand what you meant with remote FLake URI. | 08:52:32 |
| @NobbZ:matrix.org | They say, they treat the local machine as a remote one, and have set up everything to connect from local user to local root via SSH, making it transparent for colmena.
This is a common approach for all of these tools | 08:55:44 |
| @ask-yourself:matrix.org | So everything would build remotely then push back to my machines, instead of anything being built on main workstation? | 09:17:18 |
| Linux Hackerman | No, where it's built is unrelated | 09:54:05 |
| Linux Hackerman | but if you set it up so that your user can SSH into your workstation as root, you can deploy your workstation as if it were a remote system. | 09:54:43 |
| Linux Hackerman | By default it will build everything on your workstation | 09:55:23 |
| Linux Hackerman | if you set deployment.buildOnTarget for a machine, or pass --build-on-target on the command line, it will instead build directly on the host that's being deployed (though in the case of your workstation it will still end up being built on your workstation because that's what's being deployed) | 09:57:02 |
