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Colmena

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A simple, stateless NixOS deployment tool - https://github.com/zhaofengli/colmena110 Servers

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29 Nov 2022
@NobbZ:matrix.org@NobbZ:matrix.orgThat are system services16:36:25
@ask-yourself:matrix.org@ask-yourself:matrix.orgOk, I don't think I know what you mean by "service" then, could you clarify?16:36:50
@whentze:matrix.orgWanja Hentze
In reply to @NobbZ:matrix.org
That are system services
They did pass --user to systemctl
16:37:37
@NobbZ:matrix.org@NobbZ:matrix.orgExactly.16:37:55
@NobbZ:matrix.org@NobbZ:matrix.orgKmonad runs as a system service16:38:01
@NobbZ:matrix.org@NobbZ:matrix.org Not as a user service 16:38:12
@NobbZ:matrix.org@NobbZ:matrix.orgAt least if they are still using the nixos module as provided by the kmonad repo16:38:30
@ask-yourself:matrix.org@ask-yourself:matrix.org(I am. I import it to the flake.)16:39:04
@NobbZ:matrix.org@NobbZ:matrix.orgSo check your system services16:39:16
@NobbZ:matrix.org@NobbZ:matrix.org Namely kmonad-${keyboard.name}.service 16:39:32
@ask-yourself:matrix.org@ask-yourself:matrix.org

I see these:

  kmod-static-nodes.service                                                                          >
  kmonad-options.service  
16:41:01
@ask-yourself:matrix.org@ask-yourself:matrix.orgI don't see anything with my keyboard's name.16:41:30
@NobbZ:matrix.org@NobbZ:matrix.org

Please use list-units to also see inactive ones, then check its status.

From the module I can't see wether its meant to be oneshot or whtever else, though it has a Restart of "no", which is weird in my opinion…

17:06:52
@NobbZ:matrix.org@NobbZ:matrix.orgTherefore I want to know more about it17:07:07
@NobbZ:matrix.org@NobbZ:matrix.orgI hope I can build your system locally quickly…17:09:08
@NobbZ:matrix.org@NobbZ:matrix.org I can't… colmena doesn't allow to pass --option allow-import-from-derivation true down to nix. 17:13:10
@NobbZ:matrix.org@NobbZ:matrix.orgOr at least I can't find a way17:13:28
@NobbZ:matrix.org@NobbZ:matrix.org Also I can't find a way to build the system closure directly using nix build :( 17:14:02
@ask-yourself:matrix.org@ask-yourself:matrix.org
In reply to @NobbZ:matrix.org

Please use list-units to also see inactive ones, then check its status.

From the module I can't see wether its meant to be oneshot or whtever else, though it has a Restart of "no", which is weird in my opinion…

Ok, here is the output:
17:21:59
@ask-yourself:matrix.org@ask-yourself:matrix.orgDownload list.txt17:22:07
@ask-yourself:matrix.org@ask-yourself:matrix.org
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Also I can't find a way to build the system closure directly using nix build :(
Yeah, I do everything with Colmena cause it lets me work on my local and remote systems in the same way. But it's proving to make it difficult for others to help.
17:23:01
@NobbZ:matrix.org@NobbZ:matrix.orgLooking at that list, I would say you called your keyboard "options"17:23:36
@NobbZ:matrix.org@NobbZ:matrix.org

Please check the status of kmonad-options.service (it is running)

And if you have currently changes that are not yet active, please restart the service and tell us if then the changes get applied.

17:25:27
@NobbZ:matrix.org@NobbZ:matrix.org(I will actually start playing with KMonad on my systems soonish, as it might solve some problems I currently have even with my Moonlander, as there are simply things that are not perfect still, and it behaves differently between Mac and Linux)17:26:46
@ask-yourself:matrix.org@ask-yourself:matrix.org
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(I will actually start playing with KMonad on my systems soonish, as it might solve some problems I currently have even with my Moonlander, as there are simply things that are not perfect still, and it behaves differently between Mac and Linux)
This is good to hear.
17:27:30
@ask-yourself:matrix.org@ask-yourself:matrix.org
In reply to @NobbZ:matrix.org

Please check the status of kmonad-options.service (it is running)

And if you have currently changes that are not yet active, please restart the service and tell us if then the changes get applied.

Yes, if I make some changes and they don't take effect, restarting that service makes them take effect.
17:30:03
@ask-yourself:matrix.org@ask-yourself:matrix.orgInteresting.17:30:11
@ask-yourself:matrix.org@ask-yourself:matrix.orgI still think there is something weird about the behaviour I'm getting, it seems like something is wrong. But this does give me a good way to work on it w/o having to restart constantly.17:33:00
@NobbZ:matrix.org@NobbZ:matrix.org So either the nixos activation or colmena do something weird. Usually changed services should be restarted. Therefore I'd like to know if it would work reliably using nixos-rebuild switch or test 17:55:43
@ask-yourself:matrix.org@ask-yourself:matrix.orgYeah, if this keeps being a problem I'm gonna find a way to add a normal build to my config for debugging purposes.17:56:46

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