Colmena | 324 Members | |
| A simple, stateless NixOS deployment tool - https://github.com/zhaofengli/colmena | 111 Servers |
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| 8 Aug 2022 | ||
| There's nothing in colmena that would really support building this though | 06:19:32 | |
| I suppose you could hack something together with post-activation key upload | 06:19:50 | |
| Also keep in mind that you'd have to break ControlPersist on the client somehow, if you do that (delete the socket?) | 06:24:57 | |
| (break = sever the connection, poor choice of wording maybe?) | 06:25:11 | |
| * Also keep in mind that you'd have to break ControlPersist on the client somehow, if you use that (delete the socket?) | 06:25:15 | |
| Can I also run the evaluation of my configuration on a separate host? Currently working around multiple issues where I can't update the configuration of my x86_64 Linux host, because I am running on a M1 Mac. I was able to work around the issue of
by running a Linux (micro-)VM. Unfortunately evaluation still fails because of my architecture:
| 13:09:13 | |
| Zhaofeng Li: I find this resumes well the impetus of a swappable evaluator. We have to introduce the two thought categories of vartical software feameworks and horizontal ones. True congruent configurations (even: hypercongruent) need both interfaces:
| 17:09:10 | |
| * Zhaofeng Li: I find this resumes well the impetus of a swappable evaluator. We have to introduce the two thought categories of _vartical_ software feameworks and _horizontal_ ones. True _congruent configurations_ (even: _hypercongruent_) need both interfaces. I'm copying my agrument from a private discussion: > `styx` has the same problem as `colmena` , `deploy-rs`, et al. > It evolved into a _vertical_ (tool centric) framework that is a bit hard to marry with a _horizontal_ (integration centric) one like `std`. > I understood this abstract pattern with colemna and came up with a solution that involves for such tooling to have a pluggable evaluator interface to accomodate integration-centric evalutors, while still mostly preserving the look & feel (and branding/docs) of the native tooling. | 17:09:50 | |
| To put it with physics, we need to iprove the bond-energy of otherwise linux-philosophy tool-atoms. On the command line, the bond is very clear, usually it's But that simplicity doesn't apply for a | 17:15:22 | |
| * To put it with a chemistry analogy to assent the argument: we need to iprove the bond-energy of otherwise linux-philosophy tool-atoms. On the command line, the bond is very clear, usually it's `|`. But that simplicity doesn't apply for a `nix` fabric. | 17:15:56 | |
| * To put it with a chemistry analogy to assent the argument: we need to improve the bond-energy of otherwise linux-philosophy tool-atoms. On the command line, the bond is very clear, usually it's `|`. But that simplicity doesn't apply for a `nix` fabric. | 17:16:16 | |
| * To put it with a chemistry analogy to assent the argument: we need to improve the bond-energy of otherwise linux-philosophy tool-atoms. On the command line, the bond is very clear, usually it's `|`. But that simplicity doesn't apply for a repository-spanning (i.e. world-spanning) `nix` fabric. | 17:16:52 | |
| 10 Aug 2022 | ||
| 09:54:50 | ||
In reply to @blaggacao:matrix.org very true, as someone who has 20+ years of itops this still feels mostly unresolved and often unthought of. I'm curious if you can provide more details to the solution you found? | 21:14:41 | |
| Well, The receptor interface is established in There are two solutions:
Since For something like | 21:21:43 | |
| From the bundler docs:
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| 11 Aug 2022 | ||
man nix3-bundle | 08:24:47 | |
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and https://github.com/NixOS/bundlers | 08:25:57 | |
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and https://github.com/NixOS/bundlers I had missed this | 08:31:04 | |
| 13 Aug 2022 | ||
| 12:01:57 | ||
| 14:26:22 | ||
o/ I'm a bit confused as to where do I start, given colmena requires a host that's already running nixos (unless I missed anything?) can I just nix-build some base image for a vm myself then? do I need to be somehow specific about it? | 14:28:16 | |
| actually looking at what it did to a test system it seems that it pretty much wiped everything kubevirt builder did and got the “new” nixos rolling. Am I correct to assume that the base system is effectively lost configuration wise so it doesn’t really matter what I boot into? | 15:33:26 | |
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