| 22 Oct 2025 |
 vcunat | This is unresolved so far, too
https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/453603#issuecomment-3426233438 | 05:20:30 |
 ElvishJerricco | oh crap, I didn't see that comment | 05:23:09 |
 dramforever | oh, yeah that's why i was asking again about whether we want to work around this... | 05:23:51 |
| vcunat | And this one is a channel blocker:
https://hydra.nixos.org/build/309828960#tabs-buildsteps | 05:26:19 |
| vcunat | Also nixpkgs-unstable is blocked by an unrelated merge that happened before merging staging-next
https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/452844#issuecomment-3425510646 | 05:28:27 |
| ElvishJerricco | I can't really think of a good way to workaround this. Just loading all modules in kmod static-nodes is really excessive, since we only need to fix the nodes that would get uaccess. And patching systemd.package seems...... not great | 05:32:56 |
| vcunat | So do that filename replacement in those roughly 10 .nix files? | 05:35:58 |
| vcunat | * So we do that filename replacement in those roughly 10 .nix files? | 05:36:02 |
| ElvishJerricco | right | 05:36:03 |
| ElvishJerricco | that's the thing that fixes the tests but not the bug | 05:36:14 |
| vcunat | (and revert these on staging afterwards) | 05:36:20 |
| ElvishJerricco | but it's a pretty minor bug | 05:36:23 |
| dramforever | it is fairly easily work-around-able | 05:37:49 |
| dramforever | but that counts on users knowing it's the systemd 258 problem | 05:41:03 |
| vcunat | Uh, amazon-ssm-agent did build for me on the first attempt, even though failing like 4-6 times on Hydra 😢 | 05:52:39 |
| vcunat | And now it passed even there. | 06:20:08 |
| vcunat | Annoying, but not critical. | 06:20:22 |
| vcunat | So at least nixos-unstable might be unblocked right now. We'll see in a few hours. | 06:39:16 |
| ElvishJerricco | vcunat: and in a few hours a bot will merge that to staging so I can revert, right? | 06:43:37 |
| vcunat | It was conflicted and didn't receive a merge for over 24h. | 06:48:15 |
| vcunat | Merged now manually, so we can revert immediately. | 06:48:27 |
| ElvishJerricco | nice, thanks: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/454459 | 06:49:41 |
 Grimmauld (any/all) | In reply to @elvishjerricco:matrix.org
I can't really think of a good way to workaround this. Just loading all modules in kmod static-nodes is really excessive, since we only need to fix the nodes that would get uaccess. And patching systemd.package seems...... not great Tbh overriding systemd.package doesn't sound that bad to me... | 07:06:15 |
| dramforever | maybe a script to run after udev rules to boop everything in /run/udev/static_node-tags/uaccess/? | 07:07:08 |
| vcunat | Next staging-next-25.05? (probably tomorrow, after Hydra cleans trunk-combined and we add also trunk)
I've been looking through the situation again. 25.11 schedule now allows general breaking changes until 25th. I'd really like to have all of these in the next iteration, preferably also with the GNOME upgrade (which has an exception and could break after 25th, too). The first merge inside release-25.05..staging-25.05 is 5-6 weeks old now (5659907ac8f3). So I thought that this moment might fit staging-next-25.05 well.
| 11:31:21 |
|  Adda joined the room. | 17:53:50 |
| 23 Oct 2025 |
| vcunat | New staging-next-25.05:
https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/454871 | 12:12:25 |
 Philip Taron (UTC-8) | ugh, I didn't have time to package systemd 257.10 for this | 16:03:19 |
| Philip Taron (UTC-8) | * ugh, I didn't have time to package systemd 257.10 for this; guess it's water under the bridge unless we'll do one more 25.05 staging before EOL | 16:03:51 |
| vcunat | https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/453715 | 16:03:56 |
