| 18 Oct 2025 |
 K900 | Hit restart all failed on next | 15:42:52 |
 sterni | Merged staging-next into staging | 23:17:47 |
| 19 Oct 2025 |
|  ungeskriptet joined the room. | 05:56:07 |
|  @azahi:azahi.cc left the room. | 15:46:51 |
| K900 | Think we might be OK to merge now | 18:06:51 |
 Vladimír Čunát | No. | 18:09:05 |
| Vladimír Čunát | We have channel blockers even for -small | 18:09:21 |
| Vladimír Čunát | https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/449539#issuecomment-3418643568 | 18:09:35 |
| K900 | Oh god | 18:14:15 |
| K900 | The latestKernel test is systemd 258 probably | 18:14:20 |
 Grimmauld (any/all) | uhhh | 18:16:44 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | i thought we had systemd tested before merging 258 | 18:17:15 |
 dramforever | but only on latest, and aarch64-linux | 18:19:11 |
| dramforever | * but it only fails on latest, and aarch64-linux | 18:19:16 |
| Vladimír Čunát | nixosTests.latestKernel.login fails on x86_64-linux for me. | 18:21:42 |
| dramforever | oh | 18:27:04 |
| dramforever | i mixed the two up | 18:27:31 |
 ghpzin | There is an issue upstream with similar thing (not sure if relevant):
https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/39206 | 18:41:12 |
 ElvishJerricco | I'm looking into it... | 18:47:28 |
| ElvishJerricco | well we tested all the systemd.tests and latestKernel.login isn't one of those | 18:48:27 |
| dramforever | it seems that udev 258 no longer gives permissions on /dev/snd/timer unless snd-timer is loaded | 19:03:43 |
| dramforever | * it seems that udev in systemd 258 no longer gives permissions on /dev/snd/timer unless snd-timer is loaded | 19:03:53 |
| ElvishJerricco | wut... | 19:08:41 |
| dramforever | which would be a regression in systemd but i'm not sure if i'm playing with it wrong | 19:09:10 |
| ElvishJerricco | yea, this is really weird. udev doesn't seem to consider it to be a device until snd_timer is loaded | 19:10:16 |
| dramforever | wait that could be it, right? if uaccess is only giving it permissions if it's successfully detecting it as a real device | 19:10:57 |
| ElvishJerricco | well, note this weird udev rule https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/781d9d0789379d1ea1f2ecefb804d41e9c8b6c38/rules.d/70-uaccess.rules.in#L29-L31 | 19:11:51 |
| dramforever | it's been here forever | 19:12:13 |
| ElvishJerricco | which basically says "if any sound subsystem device shows up, then add uaccess to snd/timer and snd/seq" | 19:12:17 |
| dramforever | and on 257 this wasn't a problem | 19:12:39 |
