| 22 Sep 2025 |
 nim65s | maybe we could make some kind of todolist, like a pad or meta issue ? | 22:15:15 |
 Grimmauld (any/all) | i'd prefer patch over substitute (osg), your pystring is basically the same (but cleans up the with) so that is where i would lean towards preferring yours | 22:15:31 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | but i will go sleep and if anyone merges yours first then so be it, you did it first and i should have looked better before telling people those needed fixing | 22:16:50 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | +1 for tracking issue, last take was emily saying it might not be necessary until we can grasp the scope of these fails | 22:17:25 |
| nim65s | my workflow is usually to open upstream PR and substitute the thing from that PR, and wait for upstream to bikeshed on the number | 22:17:32 |
| nim65s | * my workflow is usually to open upstream PR and substitute the thing from that PR, and wait for upstream to bikeshed on the version numbers | 22:17:45 |
| nim65s | when they agree on something I fetchpath instead | 22:18:01 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | there is a lot of dead upstreams on the way to things like freecad, in which case it makes sense fetching from gentoo (they did cmake 4 before we did and have patches already) | 22:18:25 |
| nim65s | but here you suggest doing writing a .patch in nixpkgs instead of fetchpatch ? | 22:18:33 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | hm? no the patch file in nixpkgs is unused, we can just fetch all those patches from gentoo | 22:19:03 |
| nim65s | hum, they did that without opening a PR upstream ? I know it is dead, but that is still the best central place we have | 22:19:25 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | in the end it is whatever, the output is basically the same (barring drv hashes) | 22:19:34 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | oh wait i am dumb | 22:20:26 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | wrong open | 22:20:29 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | its late, i can't even read... ugh. Time for sleep | 22:20:41 |
| nim65s | OH | 22:20:48 |
| nim65s | yes | 22:20:50 |
| nim65s | same | 22:20:53 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | i confused opencollada with openscenegraph, fucking hell | 22:20:54 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | so only pystring, and there i prefer yours | 22:21:05 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | anyways | 22:21:08 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | how do people stay up until 4am doing nix things... | 22:21:35 |
| nim65s | when you dont need brain and patching cmake version numbers is only muscle memory, it's easier to stay late x) | 22:22:29 |
 Winter | there’s an answer but it’s one you probably won’t like | 22:22:33 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | burnout-induced insomnia? | 22:23:02 |
| Winter | …something like that | 22:23:15 |
| Winter | i would know, a few weeks ago i spent a solid… 30h+ awake either doing or stressing about Nix things 😉 | 22:23:46 |
| Winter | can’t recommend | 22:23:53 |
| nim65s | (fun fact, cmake v4 fix for glew in staging is in #444660 and #444006) | 23:14:36 |
| nim65s | (hum, no, 445…) | 23:16:55 |
