| 21 Sep 2025 |
 ElvishJerricco | actually, I guess I could PR the patch that systemd initrd needs right now if that means we can get it in staging-next today, which would let me finish off systemd-initrd-by-default over the next days. Does that work? | 08:25:32 |
 K900 | I think we should hold off | 08:25:50 |
| K900 | This cycle is already very cursed | 08:25:56 |
| ElvishJerricco | ah alright | 08:26:01 |
| K900 | We have cmake 4 and LLVM 2 | 08:26:08 |
| K900 | * We have cmake 4 and LLVM 21 | 08:26:09 |
| K900 | I would REALLY like to not add a systemd update into the mix | 08:26:24 |
| ElvishJerricco | the benefit of doing it this cycle is just that systemd initrd would benefit from more people using it sooner before release, but it's not that big a deal | 08:26:37 |
| ElvishJerricco | (well, the systemd "update" would just be a small patch to the shutdown code) | 08:27:13 |
| ElvishJerricco | (i'm not talking about 258 right now) | 08:27:25 |
| K900 | Oh | 08:27:29 |
| K900 | Ehhh | 08:27:35 |
| ElvishJerricco | still just don't want to introduce systemd-initrd-by-default in this cycle? That's fine | 08:28:28 |
| K900 | I am at this point genuinely just afraid of touching it lol | 08:28:54 |
| K900 | (outside of fixing cmake 4) | 08:28:59 |
| ElvishJerricco | lol ok | 08:29:30 |
 ofalvai | Small fix for toml11 and LLVM 21: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/444901 | 09:03:41 |
| K900 | OK there's a lot | 09:54:16 |
| K900 | Of cmake 4 fails | 09:54:24 |
| K900 | And I'm not even close to done | 09:54:34 |
 Vladimír Čunát | Should we call an early ZHF for staging-next this time? 😁 | 11:03:04 |
 Grimmauld (any/all) | there is still libxml that'll break shit | 11:46:28 |
| Vladimír Čunát | I don't expect we even need it in 25.11 when it comes to it. | 11:47:26 |
| Vladimír Čunát | * I don't expect we even need libxml2 2.15 in 25.11 when it comes to it. | 11:47:53 |
| Vladimír Čunát | 2.13 is still getting security fixes apparently, so I expect 2.14 can hold for several more months. | 11:48:36 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | we are manually backporting them, and only because there is things that insist on the old ABI | 11:52:02 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | if it were me we'd have dropped that long ago | 11:52:13 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | i do NOT want to repeat this backport hell on 25.11 | 11:52:22 |
| Vladimír Čunát | 2.13 is getting security fixes upstream | 11:52:48 |
| Vladimír Čunát | Released about a week ago:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/libxml2/-/commit/04af2cabb9f859c198b8a553c028a87481199410 | 11:53:15 |
