| 21 Sep 2025 |
 Vladimír Čunát | Today is probably the last chance for this staging-next, if we're talking about such a large rebuild. | 05:42:45 |
 ElvishJerricco | ah ok | 05:42:51 |
| ElvishJerricco | bummer | 05:42:53 |
| Vladimír Čunát | The next one might start two weeks from now. | 05:43:20 |
 K900 | 258 no, initrd by default yes | 05:43:22 |
| ElvishJerricco | (initrd by default is very likely going to come with a systemd patch for the shutdown weirdness) | 05:43:45 |
| Vladimír Čunát | Though the timing is rather uncertain, given by the changes we have in it now. | 05:44:02 |
| ElvishJerricco | (I mean I might find a way to workaround that but the patch is really the right solution) | 05:44:03 |
| Vladimír Čunát | * Though the timing is rather uncertain, given by the changes that we have in it now. | 05:44:16 |
| K900 | Then next cycle yeah | 05:44:22 |
| Vladimír Čunát | 2025-10-04 restrict "release-critical packages" | 05:45:26 |
| Vladimír Čunát | (e.g. systemd) | 05:45:35 |
| ElvishJerricco | right :/ | 05:45:41 |
| ElvishJerricco | how does that interact with staging? | 05:45:52 |
| K900 | I think we can overrule that tbh | 05:46:38 |
| K900 | If it comes to that | 05:46:42 |
| Vladimír Čunát | These packages are all huge rebuilds. | 05:46:48 |
| ElvishJerricco | Right well my question is: Is the next cycle allowed to contain changes to systemd if it won't be merged to master until after 2025-10-04? | 05:47:36 |
| Vladimír Čunát | The date is about merges to staging. | 05:48:00 |
| ElvishJerricco | ahh | 05:48:04 |
| Vladimír Čunát | And 2025-10-04 looks like about exactly when the next staging-next will start. | 05:48:23 |
| Vladimír Čunát | * And 2025-10-04 looks like about exactly when the next staging-next might start. | 05:48:33 |
| ElvishJerricco | Ok, so 2025-10-04 is my deadline for this stuff; which is further out than I was planning on taking. | 05:48:51 |
| ElvishJerricco | so I should be all good pretty easily | 05:49:05 |
| Vladimír Čunát | It's certainly good that disruptive changes get merged at least a few weeks before the stable release. | 05:49:49 |
| ElvishJerricco | Yea I had intended to have initrd by default done like a month ago but time got away from me :/ | 05:50:21 |
| K900 | I'm building staging-next locally | 07:38:58 |
| K900 | Since I've got cycles to burn | 07:39:10 |
| K900 | Pushed a fix for dht | 08:08:00 |
| K900 | https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/nixos-unstable/pkgs/by-name/ya/yajl/package.nix#L31 | 08:13:39 |
